How Mineralization Fuels Your Human Vehicle | Caroline Alan, The Mineral Geek | Better Man Podcast Ep. 158

How Mineralization Fuels Your Human Vehicle | Caroline Alan, The Mineral Geek | Better Man Podcast Ep. 158

Sometimes, your health crashes and the reason is so murky, figuring out what caused it sends you down a deep rabbit hole. 

That’s what today’s guest, Caroline Alan, experienced herself. 

Despite never drinking or smoking and living a living a relatively healthy lifestyle, Caroline’s spent too much time in a very intense, high-tech career that wrecked her health: 

She was burned out, had flatlined adrenals, had an autoimmune condition, had bad inflammation in her gut and mouth (which led to bone loss in her teeth and periodontal disease, causing her to need to get her teeth cleaned five times a year), and had never been able to sleep through the night (she used to wake up three to four times every single night for most of her life). 

And then perimenopause happened, making every symptom worse and adding new ones like intense exhaustion, all sorts of anxiety and panic attacks, chronic fatigue – and the list goes on. If there’s a chronic symptom, Caroline had it. 

But then she changed one key thing that forever changed the course of her health:

She remineralized her body. And went through an almost unbelievable transformation – all because of minerals. 

Turns out, minerals are THE source of fuel for your cells. They are as foundational to better health and energy as sleep is. And it’s estimated that 40 to 50% of the adult population doesn’t get nearly enough minerals. 

Here’s what Caroline and I discuss on today’s show:

  • Why there’s such a big mineral deficiency problem in the modern world 
  • How to get ALL of your mineral needs, in the exact ratios your cells need them, from only two molecules 
  • Why thinking of your body like a forest (instead of a mechanical car) is a paradigm shift that enables you to grow healthier with age 

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Episode 158 Highlights

  • How seemingly innocent things like the Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) mislead you and condition you to approach your health in the wrong way (2:51) 
  • The only two sources of fuel for your cells (and here’s the kicker: your body only makes one of the two sources) (3:37) 
  • The “Cellular Campfire” secret that explains how the human system gets energized. (Most people don’t know this and it’s like buying a car without knowing how to fill it with gas) (3:57) 
  • Why using a full-spectrum, highly bioavailable mineral replenishment tool is like taking the pill in Limitless. (Every neuron in your brain has up to 2 million mitochondria in it… and minerals fuel your mitochondria) (5:41) 
  • How starving mitochondria in your cells tricks you into believing that your stress is coming from the outside when it’s really coming from inside of you. (This is so common, scientists have nicknamed it the “hidden hunger.”) (7:12) 
  • The rarely-talked about root cause of craving sweet and salty snacks (8:05) 
  • Why you’re NOT lacking discipline because you can’t get off the couch to exercise, the real reason is THIS (9:06) 
  • How remineralizing cleared Caroline’s periodontal disease in about two months (before doing this she had to get her teeth cleaned five times a year) (13:20) 
  • The neglected “Low Cell Wall Permeability” problem that explains why water doesn’t hydrate and food doesn’t nourish your body like it should (and how to fix it) (21:23) 
  • Why taking a 65 million year old substance that originally formed after a meteor killed 75% of life on Earth in mere hours is the antidote to poor cellular health almost every modern person experiences today (22:38) 
  • The shocking reason why modern food contains zero humic or fulvic acid (both of these molecules not only have every mineral your cells need, but they’re also in the perfect ratio) (28:08) 
  • 2 scientific ways to test whether you have mineral depletion or not (37:01) 
  • Why you DON’T want to use magnesium for cramps (not only is fulvic a more effective, more scientific, and speedier option, but magnesium has a dark streak of causing osteopenia and osteoporosis in athletes) (40:57) 
  • How humic and fulvic allow your body to decide which minerals it needs, how it needs them, and where it needs them 24/7 instead of becoming an armchair scientist in your spare time just to figure out your supplement stack (44:11)

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    Episode 158: How Mineralization Fuels Your Human Vehicle | Caroline Alan, The Mineral Geek - Transcript

    Dean Pohlman: Hey guys, it’s Dean. Welcome to the Better Man Podcast. Today’s episode is a interview with Caroline of Being Minerals. And get ready to think about rethink everything. You thought about mineral health. So this episode was very informational for me. I learned a lot about, common practices that most people are doing to seemingly improve their mineral health. And really, it’s not helping things like taking magnesium supplements at night or take me magnesium to help with cramps, and why that might not actually be helping and why it could be making things worse.

    Dean Pohlman: And this episode really involves a paradigm shift in how we think about health. The, one of the most basic levels, which is our mineral health, it affects everything that our body does. In terms of how much nutrients do we absorb from things? It affects our physical performance. It affects sleep, energy, motivation. So it was just a really informational episode.

    Dean Pohlman: I would highly recommend you listen, learn some stuff. And if you want to take action based upon it, do it. But I hope this inspires you to be a better man. I hope you learned something and enjoy this episode. Hey guys, it’s Dean. Welcome to the Better Man Podcast. Today I’ve got Caroline from being minerals here. And we’re going to have a conversation.

    Dean Pohlman: So, Caroline, thank you for being here.

    Caroline Alan: Thank you. It’s an honor to be here with you, Dean.

    Dean Pohlman: Yeah. So I met Caroline at the, fit father project, live event, in August of 2025, which is. Oh, my gosh, that was last year at this point, almost, and I, there were a bunch of vendors in the room. And so, you know, I’m there with my mantle yoga booth and Jesse and, few other mantle yoga volunteers.

    Dean Pohlman: And so I get to, you know, walk around and meet everybody, and, I gravitate over to this booth in the corner, you know, and I’m always like, I grab the free samples and I have to have a conversation, but I did it anyways. And, you know, and I was like, oh, I already I saw the minerals and I, I, I you take minerals now, I like, I’ve got my trace minerals that I ordered from Amazon.

    Dean Pohlman: And then he said, oh well, you know, and I talked with Tucker. Dan who is your, your husband?

    Caroline Alan: My business partner.

    Dean Pohlman: Business partner. Sorry. And he, and he told me all the things that I was getting wrong. I was like, well, I know that, you know, a mineral, we need more minerals because our soil is crap and there’s not enough nutrients in our food. And so we need to get out there trace minerals. And he said, well, yeah, that’s part of it, but here’s what you’re missing.

    Dean Pohlman: So let’s kind of take it up there. What? Like what? What do I need to know? What am I missing? What are most people missing? When it comes to this topic.

    Caroline Alan: Yeah. You know, it’s a whole paradigm shift. And the paradigm shift is from thinking about your body as, like a mechanical vehicle. So something where you can, you know, fill up the magnesium tank, fill up the potassium tank, fill up the zinc tank, you know that you’re going to just put stuff in and it’s going to land. So the paradigm shift and we and we’ve we’ve grown up with that because we’ve grown up with these things called minimum daily allowances, recommended daily allowances.

    Caroline Alan: And you see them on the supplemental food, you know, supplemental Facts panel or the nutritional Facts panel on foods. And the problem is that those have misled people, particularly related to minerals okay. Because minerals are a are nature’s fuel for cellular systems. Now minerals and amino acids, they’re they both are the fuel for your cells. However your body makes a lot of amino acids.

    Caroline Alan: It makes no minerals. And you and you need depending on who you’re talking to, you need between 18 and 22 minerals. And let me let me provide a little context because it’s, it’s really helpful for people to understand how their vehicle works. You would never buy a car if you didn’t know how to fill up the gas tank.

    Caroline Alan: But most of us are walking around in bodies that have, and we have no idea actually how they’re fueled. Okay, so I use a I use a description. If you were going to have a campfire, you’d have to have some wood and some probably some paper or tinder to get that wood started. And you would need a match now inside your cells are where your campfires live and you’re the match is your mitochondria.

    Caroline Alan: The mitochondria are the RDA, tool for igniting the fuel into energy that you can utilize the fuel itself, the wood and the paper is minerals and amino acids. They are the fuel for your vehicle. So if you don’t have enough of this basic fuel, you end up with a very weak campfire. Okay. Like so. And let’s get a sense of the scale of this, okay?

    Caroline Alan: Your body, which is completely made of single cells that miraculously work together to do all of the functions that you need. They allow me to sit here talking to you, moving my hands, thinking hundreds of autonomic processes happening in the background. Every single cell in your body knows what its function is and does its best to to do that function.

    Caroline Alan: Okay. But all of those cells require energy. And that energy is, is generated via mitochondria inside the cells. Now your entire body made of about maybe, 37 trillion, if you’re a small person to 150 trillion cells. Okay. Now and you’re the mitochondria in your cells, it’s not like one mitochondria to one cell on the back of my hand.

    Caroline Alan: In one cell I might have 200 mitochondria in my heart. In a single cell, there could be 5 to 8000 mitochondria. And in my brain, in a single neuron, there could be upwards of 2 million mitochondria, one single neuron. Okay. So what you have to recognize is and these mitochondria are working moment by moment by moment generating energy.

    Caroline Alan: And they’re using fuel that you put into your body to do that. If you don’t have enough fuel. And the people that I speak with say that modern humans, have maybe 50, 40% of the minerals that they need. Now, you probably because you eat really well and you take really good care of yourself. You I’m sure you have more, but unless you’re using a real full spectrum, very bioavailable mineral replenishment tool, you’re still not hitting that 100%.

    Caroline Alan: So what happens is your body has to pick and choose what it can do and what it can’t. So it keeps all of the functions happening. But it’s keep sending the message to your system. I things aren’t right here. I need something, I need something, something’s not right here I need something. And that amps the nervous system up.

    Caroline Alan: And now people who think that the stress is coming from the outside, much of that stress is coming from the inside because their bodies don’t have a cell at a single cell level. What they need to fulfill all their functions. In fact, this this widespread mineral deficiency has been there’s a term for it, and they call it the hidden hunger.

    Caroline Alan: And the hidden hunger is that feeling that there’s just something missing and it sends you to the fridge an hour after you eat your dinner, looking for something sweet or something salty and crunchy. You know something. Because what to hungry cells crave. They crave sugar and salt. So this is like the the kind of the context that I want to bring to the conversation.

    Caroline Alan: Minerals. They’re not only the structural substrate of everything in the universe, they are also are the cellular fuel for every single cell on the planet.

    Dean Pohlman: Okay. Well,

    Caroline Alan:

    Dean Pohlman: Where do we where do we go from here?

    Caroline Alan: Yeah, yeah. So here’s the thing. So you think about, you realize that we’re not fueled. And so that’s why we have a raft of chronic symptoms. So if your body can’t do everything it says, well, I’m going to keep your brain going, but we’re going to have brain fog because there’s 2 million mitochondria in a single, you know, in a single neuron.

    Caroline Alan: And if you don’t have enough minerals to fuel all those, you get that brain fog. Okay. You then if you’re not able to just generate enough energy, it’s hard to get off the couch. It’s like I’m just not disciplined enough to get to the gym when really you literally don’t have enough energy to get to the gym and then your body, over time, especially as you get older, starts developing chronic health issues.

    Caroline Alan: Gut problems, you know, mouse problems, cheese problems, sleep problems. So I’m a really good example of this because I grew up with an autoimmune condition. I had, gluten intolerance all my life. I worked in very intense, high tech career. And I ended up burning out of that with flatlined adrenals. I had bad inflammation in my gut, that inflammation in my mouse with bone loss in my teeth, and, periodontal disease I had I never I didn’t sleep, I woke up 3 or 4 times a night, every night most of my life.

    Caroline Alan: In fact, all of my life, until I was still, I got re mineralized, and I, of course, as I as things got worse and worse and I hit into perimenopause, I started having really intense exhaustion, all sorts of anxiety, panic, chronic fatigue, you name it. So because literally my body could never gain any momentum against all of this depletion, even though I never drank, I never smoked.

    Caroline Alan: I was really I, you know, I was a, dancer and choreographer. So, I mean, I’ve always been an athlete, you know, I’ve always taken really good care of my body. But it wasn’t enough. And this is what I’m trying to help people understand is that you can do all of these things for your body, but if you’re not providing this foundational fuel, you will struggle to maintain your health over the life, over your lifetime.

    Caroline Alan: When you’re young, you have more mitochondria that are active, and you know you tend to eat more in general. So you’re going to you’re going to be better off. But as you age, it’s going to get harder. And harder over time. So the question is, you know, what do we do about it? And and that’s, you know, that’s where I think there’s also a lot of confusion.

    Caroline Alan: What have you done for yourself around around minerals.

    Dean Pohlman: Me I mean, I think I saw from I remember I saw a review from somebody in the Fit Father Project group, I think I’m in their Facebook group, and I saw someone in the Brotherhood say that. Oh, I didn’t used to take minerals. And now I take minerals and, it’s a night and day difference. I was like, okay, cool, I’ll take some minerals.

    Dean Pohlman: And so I, you know, that’s that’s really all my experience. My knowledge is that very general that we don’t get enough minerals because of soil depletion, soil quality depletion. And so we need to supplement. And so I just have like a little, you know, up until this point, up until I met you guys, I just had my little Trace Minerals thing from that, I got from Amazon.

    Dean Pohlman: You know, whatever, you know, whichever one is the highest ranking. And I got that one. And, the most reviews and the probably like the second cheapest price. And then I got that into my water and that’s, that’s how I think about minerals. But mostly it’s like a non, you know, mostly it’s just a non-factor for me.

    Caroline Alan: Yeah. Yeah. So and most people won’t even get their the trace minerals. Trace minerals are are definitely a better solution. And and we’ll talk about you know one of the things that I did as I got re mineralized using these plant based minerals, all of those symptoms that I described, just they just resolved. And that’s why I ended up doing so much research about mineral depletion and its effects and then mineral replenishment.

    Dean Pohlman: How how long does it take for the how long did it take the symptoms to resolve when you started?

    Caroline Alan: About 8 or 9 months for all of them. I started noticing two months. I went to my dentist and my periodontal disease, like all of the tissues that had been red and inflamed, deep pockets that was gone. And my dentist was like, whoa, what just happened? Because I had to have my teeth cleaned five times a year because, my gosh, my career dental disease.

    Caroline Alan: So, she was amazed. Then for months when I went to my, naturopath, I’d had flatlined adrenals for over a year, and we’d been trying all these different things. She’d give me a, prescription for a hydrocortisone, which I didn’t want to take. And at that, at that meeting, my my results were one third of the way up the chart, which, I mean, after being flatlined for over a year was a huge change.

    Caroline Alan: So, yeah, over the 8 or 9 months, all of those things that I talked about, I mean, I started sleeping through the night, the gut problems, elimination and bloating just went away. The headaches I had, recurring headaches, sleep issues, brain fog, all of these things resolved. And I want to be clear. Like minerals don’t heal anything. What they do is provide the fuel, the the energy to your body so that it can do what it naturally can do.

    Caroline Alan: Because your body is a natural ecosystem. One of the most amazing things about ecosystems in general is left alone, and given what they need, they will balance and heal. And and that is your body. So but you have to actually give it what it needs at that very foundational level. And so many people are using so many high level, you know, biohacking tools, but they don’t they’re not doing the foundation.

    Caroline Alan: And without mineral foundation, I talk to every biohacking tool every day hacking, supplement that. They all all of the experts agree that without minerals, their tools do not work. So it’s the first thing you can do. And in fact, you should do. And, and the practitioners that we work with, you know, who report that people used to come with 1 or 2 chronic issues now come with 5 or 6.

    Caroline Alan: And the first thing that our practitioners do is say, here are the minerals. Take these for a month and then we’ll talk. So they just start with that foundation and then everything else begins to they can gain momentum in their health. They start having energy. And we can talk about, you know, I want to talk about replenishment because there’s a lot of confusion, because, you know, people are using magnesium as an example for sleep or athletes use a lot of salt based electrolytes, you know, for training, for training exercises.

    Caroline Alan: I mean, lots of people use salt based electrolytes. And it’s it’s really a misunderstanding about how minerals work in the body. And it ultimately leads to continued imbalance in the body’s ecosystem, and particularly in the gut.

    Dean Pohlman: So I want to, I want to bring up biohacking for a second. So if you’re not familiar with biohacking, you know, I, I’m sure, you know, I’m sure that you can give a much better explanation of what biohacking is. But as someone who has kind of been in biohacking world and out of it and then back in it and then out of it again, and, you know, one foot in once it out, kind of thing.

    Dean Pohlman: Biohacking I’ve seen in this world, there are a ton of people with autoimmune conditions where modern medicine has kind of failed them. And so they’re out looking for these other solutions. And so, you know, there’s a lot of this is where you find, you know, like red light therapy, or like, oh, what’s why why should I cold plunge or like sauna, or you know, in this example, mineralization.

    Dean Pohlman: So there’s a lot of these things that, you know, can be seen kind of as, you know, I wouldn’t call cold plunging a foundation, I think know like based on this conversation, I would say mineralization seems to be much more of a foundation and, cold punching. But you just kind of look at these practices that, that have helped people get results where more traditional methods have not.

    Dean Pohlman: So, you know, this is this is kind of like as, like my introduction to, like, this is the biohacking world. And, anyways, just bringing that up in case you haven’t been in biohacking world, that’s kind of that’s where that’s been my experience with it.

    Caroline Alan: Yeah. And I think, I think really the, the inception of biohacking, which, you know, people call Dave Asprey the father of biohacking because he kind of first coined the term but it was really about taking a proactive approach to your health rather than waiting till you get sick and going to the doctor saying, okay, what are the ways that I can support extreme performance, longevity and health in my body instead of waiting for it to slowly break down and in fact, age backwards, you know?

    Caroline Alan: So there’s lots and and there’s so many good things about that. And then there are also the challenging things that, you know, because the only challenge that I mean, one of the big challenges that I see is that the relationship with the body is something you’re going to do things to, to have an effect and immediate effect. And if you do that without setting up that foundation with minerals and good diet and, you know, all these things that are going to support that, you can start ending up messing up your metabolism, creating all sorts of imbalance you can do a lot of you can do a lot of I won’t say damage, but you can

    Caroline Alan: definitely create problems for yourself. So it’s always it’s always good to start simple and just start with the foundation and first understand how does your body work, you know, and the thing that I, a relative to minerals that I like to help people understand is to fuel your body. You’ve got to get the minerals in your mouth. You’ve got to get them into your gut.

    Caroline Alan: You’ve got to get them absorbed through the lining of your gut into your bloodstream. And ultimately, you’ve got to get them into your cells. And that is the piece, the those three stages digestion, absorption through the lining of your gut and assimilation into the cells. Those three stages are key. And most of the minerals that people buy in pill powder, electrolyte drink form have very, very low bioavailability because one of those stages breaks down.

    Caroline Alan: So if you start with just pills and powders that people take in, you know, capsules and stuff, it’s most of those are made from rocks, shells and bones. Now your human digestive tract doesn’t break those down. What. Very well. So a very, very large percentage of that mineral content that you’re putting into the mouth goes straight through your system and ends up in the toilet.

    Caroline Alan: So you’re doing all this due diligence of taking all these pills every day in capsules. And most of it is not even ever getting into your body. So yeah, the next, you know, so some portion of it does break down all the way to its chemical components, where it can be absorbed through your gut lining into your bloodstream.

    Caroline Alan: But there’s only two parts of the process. Now you have to get into your cells. And the problem that many of us have today is that because of toxins that were, encountering in our environment, because of things like seed oils and all sorts of different things, our cell linings are not particularly healthy. And so we have what we call we call it low cell wall permeability.

    Caroline Alan: So all of the nutrition you’re putting into your mouth, you need to actually have it get into and water not just food, but also water. Hydration means getting water into your cells. And the problem is, most of what we’re eating is actually in most of what we’re taking is just going straight through us. So the cool thing is that nature actually solve this problem already.

    Caroline Alan: And this is what I found out when I really started studying plant based mineral substances. They’re called humic and Volvic. These two molecules, they actually represent a technology like Mother Nature’s technology for re mineral izing every cell on the planet. They they are a technology for uptake, for enhancing uptake of nutrients into cells. They’re also a technology for detoxification of cells and cellular systems.

    Caroline Alan: And that’s very important, you know, because our systems are constantly encountering all sorts of different substances and things that cause all sorts of problems, and we need to be able to get those out of our system so that the system can operate efficiently. So it kind of makes sense that nature would solve the problem, considering that it’s such a necessary component of, of, cellular life.

    Caroline Alan: Minerals are the fuel cells, nature said. Well, I better get them into the cells. Better I get better. Make sure it happens, you know. Yeah.

    Dean Pohlman: Okay. All right. So we know that these four.

    Caroline Alan: And what was the other one? It’s called humic and humic. Yeah. Okay. You know what they come from is is decomposed plants. Freshwater plants okay. So in our particular products come from there are many different humic and phobic substances around the earth. Ours come from a particular material. It’s called Shumate and it’s a black crystalline substance. It comes from about 12ft below the Earth.

    Caroline Alan: And how it occurred there is that about 65 million years ago, the earth was covered with rainforests and and, meteor. Sorry. A meteor hit the Yucatan and it killed 75% of all life on Earth in a few hours. And all of these rainforests around the earth died and decomposed and became these humic it mainly they’re called humic substances.

    Caroline Alan: Actually, in in the Himalayas there’s Sheila G. A lot of people use Sheila G as a, as a dietary supplement. It’s a humic substance. In the British Isles. They have something called peat, and a lot of people use that. It’s a clumpy, soil like substance. There’s other materials around the Earth, but we use this this crystalline substance called Shumate.

    Caroline Alan: And we take that and we extract these two molecules, humic and Volvic. And these two molecules, they both carry all of the minerals your body needs, all of them in the natural ratios that you need to receive them in. And what’s really interesting is that the cells in your body need the same ratios of minerals that a cell in a redwood tree would need, or any, any cellular, because at a, at a very at the, at the detailed energy generation level, all cells work the same.

    Caroline Alan: Certainly you are different than a tree photosynthesis different things like that. However at the energy generation the mitochondrial level, it works the same and in your body needs the same ratios of minerals. Okay, so this is one of the big misunderstandings that people have when we think about supplementing with minerals, is that the amount of minerals that you have in your body is one part of the equation.

    Caroline Alan: The balance between the minerals is equally important. So as an example, if you use magnesium for sleep, a lot of people are using today magnesium for sleep. They take it before they go to bed or for elimination. People always use also use it if they tend to get stopped up. The problem with that is when you put a large amount of magnesium in your gut on a regular basis, your body says, I have got a concentration of minerals here, of a particular of a single mineral here, and I need to balance that magnesium with phosphorus and calcium.

    Caroline Alan: Now what it first does is it gathers water from your body to actually try and eliminate the excess. So now you’re urinating more to eliminate the excess. Or also number two, which is why it helps you eliminate, but it also will try to balance that amount of magnesium in your gut. And it does that by pulling phosphorus and calcium from other parts in your body, which are your bones and your teeth.

    Caroline Alan: So not a good thing to do on a regular basis. And in fact, I’ve worked with trainers of elite triathletes in particular, who came to me with their aging athletes starting to experience osteopenia and osteoporosis from just this problem. So, you know, right now there are lots of people who are using salt based electrolytes on a daily basis, sometimes two or, you know, multiple stick packs a day.

    Caroline Alan: And what they’re doing is they’re trashing their gut microbiome, they’re trashing it. They’re creating continual imbalance. They’re making more work for their body. So this it’s just a big misunderstanding. You know, the whole concept of minimum RDA or, you know, minimum daily allowance, all this these were things that were developed in a lab by scientists, you know, and they really have no relevance for you or I because you and I have different DNA and, like genetics, we have different epigenetics, we have different lifestyles, we have different eating habits, we have different health histories.

    Caroline Alan: So all of those things affect the way minerals are needed and operate in our body and the balances that we need. So there is absolutely no ChatGPT is super, you know, smart AI that could ever tell you how much of any particular mineral you need a day. So you’re better off to use nature’s tool, which is to provide these extremely bioavailable, humic and phobic substances that are already pre formulated in the natural ratios that you need.

    Caroline Alan: So when you bring them into your body you’re not creating imbalance.

    Dean Pohlman: So so my kind of question here is, you know just assuming that the I don’t know, just just trusting that the nature provides the optimal, you know, the optimal combination or ratio of these things that support mineral health. Like why isn’t this in, why isn’t this in the food that is grown? Why isn’t this in. You know, I would just assume that if they were not, if I would just assume that they would be in the food that was grown and they’re not.

    Caroline Alan: Yeah. Yeah. So the problem is that modern farming practices have major made major problems in our soil. First of all, glyphosate, which kills the microbes in soil. So, and and what produces humic and phobic is microbial processes. Okay. Volvic is a result of a very specific set of microbial processes that happen during the decomposition of plants. So when we in nature what happens is plants grow and they take the minerals from the soil to create all of their structure and to generate the energy for that growth.

    Caroline Alan: And then at some point they die and they decompose and they deliver all of their nutrients back into the soil, as humic and Volvic that are then available for future plants to grow. Right. So that’s the way nature works in a forest. But what we do is we cultivate and we’ve been doing this for hundreds of years. We grow plants in soil, we harvest them in many cases.

    Caroline Alan: We spray glyphosate on them when they’re growing or after they’re growing. That glyphosate goes into the soil and it literally decimates the microbial, aspect of that soil. But we’ve also taken the plants away from where they were grown and processed them, eat them. We dispose of their waste far from where they’re grown. So the soils themselves are extremely depleted of nutrients.

    Caroline Alan: So they actually say to get the same nutrition from an apple that your grandfather ate, you’d have to eat six. Some people say seven or more apples. So extremely extreme change in nutrient density of the food. And and the other thing is, if you go out in a, in a apple orchard and you pick an apple, there’s some dust on it, you know, it’s hopefully an organic one.

    Caroline Alan: And just the human can phobic ends up being on the food. And you people used to drink water from a stream or water from a well this spring. Water. These waters all have minerals. But many of us are drinking reverse osmosis or distilled water. And we’re not. We’re we’re not re mineralized that water and that water just not only goes straight through you, but pulls more minerals from your system, and it has none of the humic and phobic.

    Caroline Alan: And you see, so what we’ve done, so humic and phobic really represent what I call this sustainable loop. But nature relies on things grow, they ultimately die. They decompose through this microbial process. The energy is stored back in the Earth where it’s available again for future things to grow. And we’ve been disconnected from that via because of our cultivation and our modern farming practices, so that our foods, literally our systems, don’t have humic and full back in them and we’re disconnected from that loop.

    Caroline Alan: So the easiest thing to do is to reconnect that by taking lithium, I can fall back into your body. The cool thing is because your body, the cells in your body, evolved. You know, the same way all the other cells on the planet evolved. So your body recognizes back. So today, if you’ve never taken folate before, you put it into your body.

    Caroline Alan: Or if you make your body recognizes it immediately and start to utilizing it, which is it’s just a really cool thing.

    Dean Pohlman: Yeah, yeah. Okay. So now I can’t drink reverse submersed water either. Great. Thank you.

    Caroline Alan: No. All you have to do, you can drink it. This is reverse osmosis water. But what I do is I pour my glass of water and then. Yes. And I throw my minerals into it. And now you’ve got excellent water. You’ve got water that’s not just going to irrigate you. So irrigation is you put water in, it goes out.

    Caroline Alan: The more water you drink, the more you urinate. So what will happen if you have mineralized water is you’ll drink less water and feel more hydrated. I work with so many athletes who had this experience, from using salt based electrolytes that actually make you urinate more. There’s a whole thing around that we can talk about if you want.

    Caroline Alan: But, and they they get off of the salt based electrolytes. And finally, for the first time in years, they feel hydrated and they’re drinking less water.

    Dean Pohlman:

    Caroline Alan: Yeah.

    Dean Pohlman: Okay. Seems seems simple. So just add add to your water and life starts to get better and you have more energy. And then you start to work the way they’re supposed to.

    Caroline Alan: Yes. Wouldn’t it be great if so many more things were that easy? I mean, yeah, you know, I spent a lot of time in, like, health food stores talking to people who were picking up pill, bottle after pill bottle and they’re like, okay, which one should I get? Magnesium, glycine. Or maybe you see glutamate or this glistening, you know, what should I be?

    Caroline Alan: What do I need? You know, and they’ve got like 5 or 6 pill bottles and I’m like, well, how do you know what to take? And they’re like, well, my mom told me, I need, you know, zinc for my immune system. And my trainer told me I need electrolytes. And my friend told me I should get chromium for my blood sugar.

    Caroline Alan: On and on. And, and what? I know they’re going to go home and they’re going to start taking a handful of pills, and it’s going to last a month or so. And after a month you’re going to, maybe I don’t need to take that one today. I don’t really notice a difference from this one. And they’re most of what they buy is going to end up in the supplement graveyard.

    Caroline Alan: You know, it’s that coverage that we all have at home filled with bottles of stuff that we didn’t notice a difference, and we just didn’t want to continue paying for it. And we didn’t want to continue taking all those pills.

    Dean Pohlman:

    Caroline Alan: Yeah.

    Dean Pohlman: So unrelated question, but how do you figure out what you need to take. Like do you have I don’t know how you. Yeah. Would you go about doing that. I mean is is it possible for someone who’s not, you know, highly educated in this area to be able to figure out, oh, these are the supplements that I need versus this is what someone else needs?

    Caroline Alan: Yeah. Well two pieces. One is I highly recommend people check out my book, which is coming out just called a mineral reset. You can find it at Mineral Reset Books. Com and in that book I have a program and it’s, it’s a mineral replenishment program. And I’m going to take people through a process of helping them really get from a depleted state to a replenish state.

    Caroline Alan: And it does require a little input of work on one’s part to really understand what you’re taking and why you’re taking it. So you kind of have to look at your the stack or what people call their stack or their set of pills that they’re taking and really understand. What are these? You know, what’s in them. But in terms of minerals.

    Caroline Alan: So there are a couple of ways you could find out if you are mineral depleted by doing. There are two tests that I recommend. One is either called a hair tissue mineral analysis. You literally take some hair out of your head. You send it away. It’s the acronym is H2. A so some people refer to it that way.

    Caroline Alan: And that’s a good test. The problem is if you color your hair, which many women do, in some men you can’t two hair tissue mineral analysis. So the next thing is something called a ligase scan. And a ligase scan is a noninvasive, test. And they basically take a device and they shine a light, a very strong light into four places on your palm.

    Caroline Alan: And it uses something called spectra photometry.

    Dean Pohlman: And it’s used in the words.

    Caroline Alan: Yeah, it’s used in materials science. And the main thing about it is that it will return data in like a few minutes, literally like a minute. I think, it’ll tell you all if your levels of beneficial minerals, electrolytes, like your macronutrients and your micronutrients, your, vitamin levels, as well as your level of oxidative stress, which means, like, how are you doing?

    Caroline Alan: Like free radical load in your body, as well as how you’re doing in terms of detox or just overall detox, how your detox system is working. You have to be in the presence of one of the practitioners. And if you want, we can throw into the shownotes a place where people could find out if they have a practitioner in their area.

    Caroline Alan: Yeah, sure. I think it’s a great idea.

    Dean Pohlman: But in the show notes.

    Caroline Alan: Just to find out how you’re doing, it’ll also tell you heavy metals. So the the thing is, what are you going to do when you get the information? And that’s the trick. And what I’m going to tell you is whether you know you’re depleted or not. The answer is humic and full back. Because when you start providing the full spectrum of minerals your body needs in this incredibly bioavailable liquid format that requires no digestion is immediately ready for absorption the minute you drink it, and you do that on a daily basis consistently over weeks and months, your body will naturally replenish and balance all of your minerals.

    Caroline Alan: That’s the cool thing because it’s an ecosystem. So minerals work on a on in a natural ecosystem way in these very complex relationships with one another. So when you put them into the system in the natural ratios and you do that consistently over time, the body will naturally balance. Now, if you did that for it’s consistent, will you say for six months and then you went and tested?

    Caroline Alan: And let’s say you found out that your iron was low or some mineral was low. Most likely you have some problem in your system like parasites, or you’ve got, yeast proliferation or you have some other issue. So things like parasites will actually metabolize minerals before you are able to, to utilize them. Or heavy metals, certain heavy metal toxicities.

    Caroline Alan: Will they actually take up the receptors site for beneficial minerals. So you don’t actually absorb the minerals that you need because the receptor sites are taken up by the heavy metals. So what that means is you need to do some sort of process to remove the parasites. Excuse me, to remove the parasites or remove the heavy metals or deal with the yeast issue.

    Caroline Alan: And then those levels will come into balance. You see.

    Dean Pohlman: Okay. So assuming that there’s not any of that stuff going on, how long does it take for most people to start to notice the effects of re mineralization. And, and what do you by the way, what do you need to do. Is it as simple as just taking like just adding it to your water in the morning? Or do you have to be like more strategic about how you consume it or what?

    Caroline Alan: Yeah. So we have two products and one is the full deck product and full back is about enhanced nutrient uptake into the cell. It’s literally the delivery system for the minerals into your cell. It carries them in and drops them off. Okay. So I say for full fullback, it depends on how depleted you are. But for people who are really depleted, say a bike racer on a on a during an event, they take a drink of Volvic literally two minutes later, they’re like, whoa, what just happened?

    Caroline Alan: Could I feel that that quickly? We’re like, yep, because it’s so bioavailable, so literally by the time it hits your stomach, your body’s already absorbed some of it. It’s an extremely small molecule that can absorb to any tissue. So in fact, you can even spray.

    Dean Pohlman: It on this.

    Caroline Alan: Side of your body.

    Dean Pohlman: Yeah, I did this when I was there because I remember I was having like a quad cramp or something. And, and I was like, oh, we’ve got this spray and we try it and I’m like, okay. And no, it’s my hamstring. My hamstring is cramping up and I use it. And yeah, it’s totally legit. Like spray it, rub it on.

    Dean Pohlman: And then I think maybe within 30s I’m like, oh, it’s gone weird. That’s pretty cool.

    Caroline Alan: It’s really and and what we see it, we see it works like magic, but it’s backed by science because literally the molecule, if you if you hold your hand in a fist, that’s a cell, imagine that’s a cell. And then think of a head of a pin that’s the size of the phobic molecule. So any tissue that it touches on your body, it just absorbs right in.

    Caroline Alan: So you can spray it on the outside, delivering that full spectrum of minerals to any muscle that’s feeling the, you know, the tiredness from not getting the fuel that it needs. So all cramping in the body, all cramping is one. So sorry. All cramping is a result of mineral imbalance or depletion. Yeah.

    Dean Pohlman: All right. So for so for all my guys who are asking about cramping while doing a single leg bridge.

    Caroline Alan: Talk.

    Dean Pohlman: Now, now the answer is mineralization instead of more magnesium.

    Caroline Alan: And I’m going to tell you the magnesium is not going to help. And I’ll tell you so people don’t understand that cramping is not always magnesium. It could be totally different for you and I. For me, it could be the, relationship between potassium and sodium in my body that can cause cramping, phosphorus depletion. That can cause cramping.

    Caroline Alan: It’s just not always magnesium. And the other thing is, you spray magnesium on the outside, you know? Or maybe you’re taking magnesium. If you’re taking magnesium, you’re creating more imbalance in your body, remember? So if you put them the way I like to think of it is this think about your body more like a forest. Okay? If you took a wheelbarrow of magnesium and threw it on the floor of a forest, what do you think would happen to the plants in that area?

    Caroline Alan: They wouldn’t thrive because that is a concentration of a very powerful substance. And those plants are going to go, oh my gosh, this is too much. You’re going to wait for the water to come. And and they’re going to wait for it. And then, you know, maybe six months later they’re going to thrive. So when you put a large concentration of a single mineral into your gut, your gut microbiome is like, oh my gosh, I’ve got to deal with this, this and eliminate a lot of it.

    Caroline Alan: And you deal with this concentration.

    Dean Pohlman: Well, kind of the way I’m thinking about it and you can tell me if I’m wrong is you can have like magnesium would be, this is the product of, of the basics of the minerals. Or you could go back and you could get you could get phobic and you could get humic. And then your body gets to decide from there, like, okay, cool, I can make what I need to using these versus you give at the end product first and then you have this improper ratio of different.

    Dean Pohlman: And then your body has to self-correct. And it does things like you are mentioning like taking calcium out of bones and causing bone density issues.

    Caroline Alan: That is exactly right. And that’s what I say is rather a gold star. Now that was fantastic because rather than thinking that we can figure out or know what our body needs at any given moment, instead what we do is we put the minerals in in their absolute base component. Some people say, what kind of magnesium do you have in there?

    Caroline Alan: Is it good? Can it is it glows in it, whatever. And I’m like, no, think of the periodic table. It’s MG, it’s the magnesium in its base components. Molecule ready to be any kind of magnesium. Your body needs. So you’re putting it in there. Now your body gets to decide what it needs, when it needs it, where it needs it, how it needs it.

    Caroline Alan: 24 seven at any given moment. So for athletes that cramping, once you start really replenishing your cells that the cramping goes down and in many cases disappears altogether. If people are having that bridge the cramping during the bridge, I recommend spray on the Insta lights before you do your workout on to the areas where you tend to have that cramping.

    Caroline Alan: You won’t get that cramping. It won’t happen. Yeah.

    Dean Pohlman: Cool. Yeah. So yeah. So like let’s go to like what most basic plan of what this looks like. So you would get you would get the full back. You would get the humic. You do one in the morning you want at night or like, what’s, and, you know, we’re not talking about, you know, most people in the entire yoga community are guys in there.

    Dean Pohlman: Yeah, 50s, 60s, 40s, 70s. Yeah, we got recreational athletes, but no one’s playing professional football and stars iron. Well, that’s not true. We have had some. We do work with the NFL players, so we had some professional football players as well. But most of them are not professional football players.

    Caroline Alan: Yeah. Yeah. So well I’m really excited for you community because you guys are going to I mean really you guys are going to be amazed at the impact it’s going to have on all sorts of aspects in that kind of 40 to 60 5 or 75, you know, that age range. It’s it’s truly amazing. So what I’m going to recommend is this you get the electrolyte product and you’re going to use that electrolyte product for energy generation to support energy generation in your body, okay.

    Caroline Alan: And you’re going to use it instead of salt based electrolytes. You’re just going to use that in the morning. You’re going to take one half to one full cup okay. If you’re really going to be active that day, take a full cup. If you’re just going to be sitting at your desk working, you could take a half cup.

    Caroline Alan: You know, on top of that, when you fill up your glass of water with your reverse osmosis water or your filtered water, you’re going to add another splash. And so you’re never drinking empty water. All the water you drink has a little bit of minerals in it that’s really important. And it will increase your overall hydration. Then at night when you go to bed, you’re going to take your micro boost.

    Caroline Alan: That’s our product. That is the humic product and that’s going to help with all of the recovery and detoxification processes. I call Micro Boost Mother Nature’s janitor. So it’s a large molecule hangs out in your bloodstream and just gathers bio waste toxins, heavy metals, glyphosate, nano plastics, viral detritus, spike proteins, zombie cells. And it just carries them out of your body.

    Caroline Alan: So it’s incredible to take at night because at night your body’s going through all sorts of recovery process. Is it only happen when you’re when you sleep. So it’s a great support to that. You would also take that with some water. So if you know you I don’t know if any of your people are sensitive. Maybe they have, had mold exposure or long Covid.

    Caroline Alan: It’s made their system sensitive. Lots of people have that today. You just drink it in a glass of water and you shouldn’t have any problems with any kind of detox symptoms. If you do have any detox symptoms, you’re just going to slow up. And there’s on the back of the bottle, there’s a little QR code. You can scan it and it will tell you it’ll take you through what’s called the slow introduction method.

    Caroline Alan: It’s a real easy method. You can follow it step by step for introducing humic, which is provides that detox element, just to slowly introduce it so you won’t have any problems. Okay, so that’s it. Literally the electrolytes is your electrolyte. Replenish your energy uptake in the bar and the energy generation in the body tool and micro Boost is the tool for Mother Nature’s janitor.

    Caroline Alan: Just cleaning, continually cleaning out and supporting recovery and regeneration in your body. Okay, that that is like. And then you can use the spray, the insta light spray as the, tool for you. Just if you’re dealing with any cramping, you just spray it on. Now first, for those people in your community that deal with night cramping, I’m telling you that all cramping in the body is a sign of mineral depletion.

    Caroline Alan: So if you start taking these regularly, we actually have a cramp free guarantee. If you take these for 2 to 4 months, we will give you your money back. If your cramping is not so reduced that you know, it only happens when you climb a mountain or something you know, or do a marathon. So we will give you your money back if you do not have, complete change.

    Caroline Alan: We have a cramp. We have a cramp relief kit. On our, on our website. So, yeah, that’s the story.

    Dean Pohlman: Okay. Awesome. And by the way, I’ve, I’ve just so totally transferred. I’ve taken, I’ve been taking them since, I guess since August and since the end of August. And I think I’ve done exactly what you are. I’ve strove to do exactly what you mentioned. I do the electrolytes in the morning. I do the micro boost at night, although I did run out of the electrolytes.

    Dean Pohlman: So I’ve just been using, I’ve just been using microbrews all the time, because that’s all I had. But I’m.

    Caroline Alan: Going to get you some more.

    Dean Pohlman: Yes, please. And I do like the, the spray does work. It’s pretty cool. I think I also have, I have a lab. There’s is there is there lavender spray that you have?

    Caroline Alan: Yeah, we have a spray. It’s called boo boo lights. So boo boo lights. This is incredible for bee stings. Burns, bug bites. It literally or even a scrape, you know, a some small, you know, cut it. It’s incredible for removing pain almost instantaneously when you spray it on or itching, burning, stinging.

    Dean Pohlman: Have to have these. I with my son. Yes. His himself and says like I need a Band-Aid. Like no, you need this super long.

    Caroline Alan: It’s pretty sure BP is paying for it.

    Dean Pohlman: Yeah. We’ll have to look at it like, no, that’s not bad enough. No, that’s that’s not serious enough of injury. That’s just us.

    Caroline Alan: So why it situation?

    Dean Pohlman: Is there some sort of promo code you can give our audience?

    Caroline Alan: Yes. And we’ll get that to you and we’ll put it in the show notes for you. Okay? I don’t know what it is right at this moment, but we’ll make sure that it’s in the show notes so people can access it. Okay.

    Dean Pohlman: Cool. All right. Well, there you have you there will be a promo code in the show notes. People. So. Well, where can people learn more if they want to read up on this stuff?

    Caroline Alan: Yeah. I would recommend people go to Beam minerals.com. We have a great learn section. If you want to read more, understand more. If you’re interested in learning more about my book you can go to Mineral Reset Vox.com. Or you could also follow me on social at Caroline Allen Dot official and I would love to, meet anyone.

    Caroline Alan: Please send questions, via our, info. It be minerals or through our Instagram account. We have really good people who will answer and in some cases I’ll also be answering. All right. Okay.

    Dean Pohlman: Cool. All right. Caroline. Well, thank you so much for your time. This is great. And I thank you. I really enjoyed meeting you at the, at the fifth Floor Project live event. By the way, guys, you know, all Caroline talked about today was minerals. But when we spoke, we just talked about life. And she’s an amazing human being.

    Dean Pohlman: So, I really appreciate the conversation we have.

    Caroline Alan: Thank you so much. Dean. That’s really I appreciate I feel the same way about you.

    Dean Pohlman: All right. Thank you. Yeah. All right, guys, hope you enjoyed this one. Oh, there you go. Perfect rocking time to go. All right guys I hope this inspires you to be a better man. I’ll see you on the next episode. All right guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode with Caroline. Again, we’ve put everything that was mentioned is going to be in the show notes below, so check that out wherever you’re listening.

    Dean Pohlman: And, be sure if you want to try this for yourself. It sounds like a great idea. I am using this myself, if I haven’t mentioned that already, which I did. But make sure to use the promo code. It’ll be in the show notes, so check that, to make sure you get the promo code.

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