Erectile Fitness: A New Way to Think About Sexual Health | Dr. Elliot Justin (MyFirmTech.com) | Better Man Podcast Ep. 152

Dean Pohlman: Hey guys, it’s Dean. Welcome to the Betterment Podcast. Today’s episode is an interview with Doctor Elliot. Justin. He is the founder of my firm, tech. And we’re going to be talking about how your penis health has an impact on your overall health. We’re going to be talking about penis health itself, what you can learn about your erections and what that will tell you about overall health, particularly cardiovascular health.

Dean Pohlman: We also talk about how Doctor Elliott’s invention, the my firm tech, device will measure your penis health for you, and you can use that to get objective data and then make improvements to your life. So this is a cool conversation. We kind of just talked about penis health questions and then got into some different things from there.

Dean Pohlman: I hope you enjoy it. I hope you learned something here. And, I hope it inspires you to be a better man. Hey, guys, it’s Dean. Welcome to the betterment podcast. Today’s guest is Doctor Elliot. Justin. He is the founder of my firm, tech. And we are going to be talking about penis health. So thank you for joining me.

Dr. Elliot Justin: It’s good to be here. You know, my mission is better sex and better sexual health for everyone and how to do data. We live in this incredible age of health care wearable smartwatches, smart rings, smart scales. But there’s a gap. And that gap is one particular concern to me is that gap is sex. And we have invented at Firm Tech, the world’s first monitor of men’s sexual health smart sex tech wearable.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Basically embed sensors into a Cochrane. And this is going to transform sexology and urology, because until now, this is kind of black box. We don’t really know what’s going on with it. In practice, we don’t really know, but we have documented 84,000 erections. This is the world’s largest database. No one else has this data. And it’s being mined by researchers.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And we’ve learned several important things that should change the way in which men. Take care of the sexual health. And and also how men. How every man. Not just men with the idea, but all men can improve their performance and their pleasure.

Dean Pohlman: Okay, well, let’s let’s start at kind of the broad overview. What do people I mean, what do people what should we know about our penis health?

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, we, you know, every man should have 3 to 4 nocturnal erections per night. We all know about morning word. We laugh about it. But one erection is not enough. And if we want to avoid Deadwood, we need to know sky on night. So, I got into this because 3 or 4 years ago, a professor of neurology at the university, you talk to, you talk about the change with telling, told me one come up, wake up.

Dr. Elliot Justin: The number nocturnal rashes that men have because they were going to indicate the Covid as well. I, I was taken aback by that because that would be another vital sign, because in medicine we say lead indicator. That’s really powerful. In medicine we treat associations, high blood pressure associated with heart attack. High blood pressure is associated with stroke, but it’s not predictive.

Dr. Elliot Justin: If your blood pressure goes up from what’s this dog of, you know, 130 to 150, it’s it’s an association that it doesn’t it’s not predicted predictive. But if a man goes from for an actual reference to two, the man is highly likely to have a cardiovascular problem. If man goes from two natural erections to 1 or 0, that man has a 50% chance of having a heart attack in the next two years.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, that’s predictive, and that’s should lead to a man, you know, changing whatever it is. It that that’s that’s that’s cause that’s causing a problem. So in the future, just the way, men today track their health and other ways that blood pressure, the electric car going once a year, they get blood tested with proteins. All men should be following the testosterone, and other baseline fact that of baseline parameters in the future, men, certainly all men over 40 or 45 will be tracking their nocturnal erections.

Dr. Elliot Justin: How long is the last? How firm they. I mean, do you have. But our device also can and tell you what’s going on while you having sex. How hard to get along to last. And with this information men can then see the impact of diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, bad habits, alcohol, recreational drugs, smoking, poor physical condition upon the sexual performance.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And actually, as you know, the body has a Biohackers like to say if you track it, you can hack it. You can’t really hack without tracking. Otherwise just guessing. It’s so much of what what’s recommended for to improvement sexual performance where they have video don’t have idea. It’s just based upon conjecture and hope. So for example if you there’s so many sugar in the health food store, there’s so many supplements are recommended for for men’s health health, such lean white coat weed mocha root upon the the one that, etc. we’ve not found a single one to work.

Dr. Elliot Justin: That’s interesting. So, for men who are considering improving this one, no. How about this? Does this and what men doesn’t, you know, getting that, getting small wearable is is a key.

Dean Pohlman: Okay, so how much of, I guess how much is penis health a reflection of overall health or of cardiovascular health versus, you know, how much is penis health, penis health on its own, if that makes sense.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, that’s a good question. It’s predominantly reflection. The client asked the health. Why is that? Well, because in order to get an erection, you have to have a strong. I’ll. I’ll talk about this implicitly. You have to have a strong pump. Yet, though, your heart has to be functioning. Well, and and or if, for then you have to have pipes that come out of the hot, the heart, the arteries.

Dr. Elliot Justin: They have to be open enough to allow blood as the penis. And on the other side, the circulation. You have to have strong, smooth muscle, and veins that can constrict. Then what, to keep the blood in the penis. So the so called keep maintaining erection. So the so crevasse is is a key. Now there are neurological issues involved in erections as well too.

Dr. Elliot Justin: But that’s not they don’t need oven diabetes which is a big problem. They don’t usually to no logical issues like multiple sclerosis. Now not a lot of people have those problems. Obviously the brain has has has a profound effect upon erections, as well. And if you have data, you can start to figure out, well, it’s a problem in my brain is that somewhere else?

Dr. Elliot Justin: So for example, the man says he has it, but he has three national erections per night. It’s a psychosocial problem, more likely than not wrong. Something that nature. Okay. The other but at the other extreme, if man has, you know, two or less not trucks per night, he points closer to a problem or what’s really common say a medication side effect.

Dr. Elliot Justin: So we, you know, we doctors prescribe killing medications like antidepressants and, antihypertensive without telling people, warning people about about this about this special fine. It’s a side effects. And with data you decide to say, well, what’s right dose for me, we don’t prescribe blood pressure medications without a blood pressure, but we prescribe eating medications without actually getting data about people.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And that’s that’s wrong. It’s unscientific.

Dean Pohlman: So yeah. So that so what you said about being able to use firm tech to track nocturnal erections and then compare it to, well if you’re getting 3 to 4 nocturnal erections, but then you’re having performance issues being psychosocial instead. That makes sense. We’ve created a we’ve created quite a few sexual wellness videos. We have a whole series of them.

Dean Pohlman: Check those out at Mandalay yoga.com slash, SWC. But so a lot of those workouts are some of those workouts are physical, right. And there’s a lot of different causes. Some of them for some people they’re two tents. And so those people, you know, they go to soon, they don’t have problems getting erections, but they last shorter than they want them to because they’re over two quick.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. You raise your pen. Yeah. You wanted to say something very important.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Because you’re getting at at the big discovery that we’ve made the data. So I hate the word dysfunction. It’s yet another way of, shameful thing for men. You know, we get labeled you, we got toxic masculinity. We got the death grip of masturbation, we have porn addiction now. We got we got retail dysfunction. No one describes women that way.

Dr. Elliot Justin: No one talks about women anymore. Like, wait, it’s 30, 40 years ago to be hysteric, frigid our ass. But they have a problem. And the problem is many black male the fixed by, by vibrators and hormones. Most men just have a problem and we shouldn’t call dysfunction. So the academic urologists who set the standards they have projected from the sickest people that they see in their offices onto the general population.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And that’s not the general populist problem. So they’re saying people who can attain erection or struggle to attain erection, this is most difficult cardiovascular disease. These are men with bad out control, diabetes, hypertension. Well they have angina. But that’s not the best that the vast majority of men. Most men get an erection and then they lose it and they can lose it for a singular reason.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Lost confidence, also desire. Well, they can lose for whole complex group of reasons medications, alcohol on top of, you know, maybe some issue with it with their partner. That’s a problem though. A guy who gets an erection is getting blood into his dick. His heart is working well, good well enough as arteries are open, open enough that he just gets erection.

Dr. Elliot Justin: So with data, the man can start to figure out what is causing this problem. We shouldn’t call it dysfunctional. That’s just a problem. And it’s it’s addressable. So this this is this is, seeing the this is the big story, actually, of what this database 84,000 erections revealed. And I present the papers about this as a as about the doctors.

Dr. Elliot Justin: If you got my illustrated my hands here you doctors the thinking that the the the incidence of rectal dysfunction. No. We know the incidence erectile dysfunction goes up 10% per decade after five. By my age I’m 72. It’s 70%. It’s a lot of men. The taking of the doctors. Vito, before I did the I saw the data was that as the incidence erectile dysfunction goes up, the firm of sex erections will go down, the number nocturnal rashes will go down, and the permanent actual rational down.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Okay. And that’s not out. And that’s not happening. Instead, what we’re seeing is a difference of sex. Erections and nocturnal erections remains relatively constant until and good until late 60s, early 70s. And that piece of tape was a bit. So why, why why do we have more reptile dysfunction being reported by men? But yet we’re not seeing softening of their erections.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, that’s at the national erections and the sex threshold. That’s really interesting because it means that the doctors have soon for the sickest people that they see in their offices, that they have a problem with a heart, that problem with their arteries. And ten, 12% of men, do. You know, it’s really important, don’t I’m not going to say, go ahead and smoke or don’t work.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Don’t don’t exercise. All these other things that are important. Let’s quite outspoken on sexual. But the problem is on the other side, the circulation to the problem is on the inside, the circulation. The problem most perhaps they get an erection, they lose it. They need some help to keep the blood in the penis. Pills don’t do that. Pills will put more blood in.

Dr. Elliot Justin: You can. You can. I called the gym. Exercise your pelvic floor muscles. But those are skeletal muscles. They don’t pump more blood into the penis. How do you keep the blood in the penis? It’s a ring. I got into this for the data, but I end up realizing that actually, what most men, even men, don’t have it is a cock, right?

Dr. Elliot Justin: If a man wants to rock harder, last longer, he more coughing, more likely to please her partner. A ring is the answer and the promise rings the made the last 150 years and this high silicone rings it pays for uncomfortable that I can actually retention cock circulation and they and so it in order to count the number of nocturnal erections overnight we actually have a range between safety for 8 to 10 hours.

Dr. Elliot Justin: We have to reinvent the cock ring and make it out of material that will not cut off the blood circulation, power improvements, performance. That’s a mouthful. Yeah, like I don’t know for the data, but but ended up reinventing the cock ring. Cognitive help Olmert look the new life you feel like you really, really fit. But things have changed for you already.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Here’s what’s changed. I just, I know I can, I know from looking at you. And because although this is true of all men, when you were like 12, 13 years old and you held a girl’s hand, no other stimulation get harder for like an hour, hour and a half, right?

Dr. Elliot Justin: Sure. Yeah. It doesn’t happen. Or does it? No. Right. So all men. It’s it’s so kind of so obvious. All men as we get older experience plus leaving our penis faster. And now it’s, it’s multifactorial. But every erection ends with blood leaving the penis. The way to improve every erection is, is has something that that that that holds blood in the penis.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And any man can prove that itself. This to myself tonight, even to do a doctor’s listening because they tend to be conservative, you know, go to guru, Pornhub or wherever you go when you’re alone, get rock hard and then no stimulation, your erection will go down 2530 five seconds, then get rock hard again and put a ring on us, of course, but a ring will do.

Dr. Elliot Justin: But you put a put a ring on it and you’re gonna stay hard for about two minutes. And that’s telling all men that a ring will help you to last harder than you know, to last longer. And therefore the issue for a lot of men, when they get an erection and lose it, it’s a competence issue. They anticipate they’re going to lose the erection because maybe it happened the last time with a partner, or they’ve had too much to drink or whatever, and a ring.

Dr. Elliot Justin: A ring is a simple solution, just the way vibrators turned out to be the simple solution for women.

Dean Pohlman: Okay. Interesting. Cool. So I’m gonna go back to the data. That was interesting to me. So like talking about the kind of where the data, doesn’t do what you expect it to do. So 40s, 50s, men hit their 40s, 50s, 10% increase in erectile problems. We won’t say dysfunction, every decade from there on, but the firmness stays the same until 60s or 70s.

Dean Pohlman: So what’s the what’s happening there? What’s happening to men in their 40s and 50s? Are they do they have more? Is it more psychological stress related or awake? What’s the what’s happening.

Dr. Elliot Justin: That’s I think it’s I think it’s multifactorial. I think that there are one if we’re gonna talk about marriages that could be committed relationships, there are things involve that men don’t want to talk about with the partners. We all talk in the therapist coach somewhat stress on communication. But what man wants to tell his wife? Actually, you hear about this group for the some gay guys to what man was tell them that their partner.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Your closest to lose or I’m bored by this. I’ve done you know I’ve done it with you to this position. Position to move task. No guys. No, let’s do that. But the most common story then and I hope this in to all of you. It’s the most common story that I hear from patients and customers. It’s men in the 50s and 60s.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Is I at heart. I bet on my wife. She has an orgasm that she wants me to penetrate her and I lose my erection. And if you ask these guys in detail what’s going on is their part is one are not paying attention to them because they wrote they’ve had they’ve they’ve had their orgasm too, a lot of often not what I hear from his men is their, their, their, their wives have had 2 or 3, four children.

Dr. Elliot Justin: They’re not going to friction, you know that. You know that. You know that they need they just don’t want to discuss it with the partners and the consequence, they lose the confidence. There are other issues are tied to it. There’s this alcohol. There there are, you know, marriage, long term, good long term relationships are stressful.

Dr. Elliot Justin: The divorce and the divorce rate reflects that. Some guys in their in their late 40s and 50s, they’re often ten, 15 years into, you know, into a into a marriage or relationship. And there are issues with money, children, and then factors. I just just mentioned just they’re just they’re just the boredom and the and they and people also that people don’t plan for pleasure.

Dr. Elliot Justin: You know, it’s really interesting to me going, you know, going to the gym, for example, people people go to the gym, I do it on the school. I could do as well too. I go there with a plan. You know, I work out with a trainer three times a week, and I go with by myself. I have a plan.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I don’t rely upon spontaneity. It’s I think it’s some stake people’s people’s marriages for people to rely upon spontaneity. You know? No, I don’t do this. Do not come visit me in Montana. I’m a really good cook. If you showed up and my my doorbell. I have a meal plan. I know about an evening plan. It wouldn’t be.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Hey. Dean’s here. Let’s see what’s in the refrigerator tonight. And I’ve got some better. Just be checking to see. I think the people needs you. People need to. If people are falling out of, out of intimacy with their partners, they need to approach it hard the way in which they would approach exercise.

Dean Pohlman: Okay. So what I’m hearing is it’s a buildup of stress. Just, life factors. You know, kids, if there are kids involved, jobs, financial struggles like that all make sense. And then in relationships, just, you know, they got out of the honeymoon phase, they get into the swing of things with it and then just kind of, you know, they stop being honest.

Dean Pohlman: They don’t want to hurt their partner’s feelings. And then it just leads into really a lack of intimacy. And I think, I think that’s just I think a lot of people just kind of accept that as normal. And that’s why people aren’t, as you know, that’s why people don’t aren’t as proactive about, you know, improving at they’re like, oh, this is just normal.

Dean Pohlman: This is what happens. I mean, it’s not good for some. It’s not good. No. Like, you know, we talk about normal with a lot of other things, like it’s normal for people to be overweight. It’s normal for people to be bright, pre-diabetic. It’s normal for people to not exercise. These are not good normals, but they are normals.

Dean Pohlman: But, you know, I guess I can just, you know, speak from my own experience, but, like, you know, I think, I think there is a layer of, of, of vulnerability that a lot of men or a lot of, or of openness or communication or honesty that a lot of men are just not willing to go to with their partners because they don’t want to hurt their feelings.

Dean Pohlman: And so that just kind of that builds up over time. And if you don’t express it, then, you know, you, you have a growing divide between you. So you add that up over ten, 20, 30 years and you’ve got just kind of like this relationship or partnership.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, it people need to step up and post the doctor’s fork or we didn’t talk about sex people, but people is talking about the benefits of sex. I mean, we know that people are has an orgasm every day. Cut the cortisol levels between 2,550%. That’s a stress hormone. So that’s on me right away. That’s her family beneficial. We know that,

Dean Pohlman: Is there, is there data on, like, what is about like 2 or 3 times a week? Is that also significant?

Dr. Elliot Justin: The study I made with time ago was, was every day. But there was a study about 2 to 3 times a week. There’s there’s a study in men over age. Now it’s like it’s 55% that I don’t forget which one at the UK, large study cohort men. It looked at them the next decades like 65 to 75 or 70 to 80.

Dr. Elliot Justin: But men who had sex twice a week versus men who had sex once or twice a month, cut their risk of cardiovascular death by 30%. Now that’s going to die. But that’s that’s significant.

Dean Pohlman: You’re still going to die, but,

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, you know what? I’m a bit background. I’m an ER doctor and one things er phrase that is eat right, stay fit, die anyway. But nevertheless it’s just, it’s in quantity. Right.

Dean Pohlman: I like that.

Dr. Elliot Justin: It’s a good bumper sticker. We also know that people that couples that has sex two, three times a week versus couples that have sex less than twice a month have had the divorce rate. Now that’s significant. Because, you know, keeping the family unit intact is profoundly important. And the impact on society is, is enormous in terms of the children not becoming criminals upcoming alcohol is.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Okay. Well, I know about drugs finishing high school. So I, I, you know, people need to my opinion needs to work at this more or less pleasure, you know, rather than make excuses. But like about the date of the death just a moment because hit the rather than dysfunction I rather think about it’s fitness. It’s fitness is positive.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I think about in terms of erectile fitness. We all are on the road from erectile fitness to rectal dysfunction. We’d like to know where we are. And that wrote and advice be able to stop and ideally back up but not. But what what the tech ring does is give men a dashboard. It tells them tells them where they are something.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And that’s profoundly, profoundly valuable. So.

Dean Pohlman: So so I have a health ring. I have that I’ve had for, for maybe, maybe a year now. And so I’m going to ask you to like kind of compare it to that. So I have a, I have a ring that measures my sleep. It tells you my deep sleep. Is it tell me what my REM sleep is.

Dean Pohlman: It tells me how long I’ve slept. If I had breathing disturbances. Tells me my, you know, tells me my reading this level is it tells me, you know, if I’m like, today, I woke up and it said, hey, you have some major stuff going on. You should take it easy today because your, your, your body temperature is elevated and your resting heart rate is higher than usual.

Dean Pohlman: And you are breathing faster than usual. So those are the kinds of things that like, you know, I get from my smart equipment. So like, how does that compare to what you’re getting with, with firm tech?

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, I hope it wasn’t this interview that’s been making this thing stressful for everybody.

Dean Pohlman: No, no, I like talking. I like.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Yeah. So yeah, I’m joking. So, Yeah. You know, are things like an aura rings the dick and Spencer got this such. And so there’s, some interesting things, which I get. I’ll get to sex in a second while. Put this way there, there are a few vital signs that interest me as much of the sexual health.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Also, the device that you’re wearing, your finger is using an accelerometer. Some tests, most determine whether or not you’re sleeping. If you’re having REM sleep, you know, quality sleep. You’re kind of comatose. You know, you’re not moving whatsoever. Well, that happens to be that every every episode, every not every episode of REM sleep is accompanied by a nocturnal erection.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And you can actually use our device if you want to, to measure the, the quality of your sleep and compare the two of them. And we have engineers on our team, please. You have, you know, aura or not. And that’s the average 80 brands here. But but you know, they have their smart have the smart devices. And they’re within about ten minutes of each other.

Dr. Elliot Justin: We tend to, to, to get a little more documented REM sleep than they do. Not that but ours is actually more of a direct measure. Now, we have improved this yet in the live study. And there’s going to be one kicking off, you know, this fall. Actually, it’s, it’s really been approved. It’s going to be at Baylor coming out of Baylor University.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Comparing our device tracker, using our device, using and using whoop, which is similar to, to aura, and also continuous glucose monitoring to you. Really? What’s going on right now? What what device is best for spiking? By the way, the device is a complimentary in one. So the you know, the other in terms of, assessing the, the the quality of of one’s sleep, but what, what if make sure you get from this.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, we got to make a cardiac catheterization that I’m aware of because they’re they’re nocturnal, wretched, deteriorated. You’re not going to get the type of contact information from a a a range where a defender. It’s not going to it’s not it’s not predictive of your cardiovascular health. So you know I average three plus nocturnal erections per night. That number went to one.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Plus I’d be a lot I have a quarter. That’s a problem that bullet problem. It wouldn’t just be. Hey, you. You’re an application, would you say? Here appears you’re under stress. I would get a notification saying you. It’s highly likely of a cardiovascular problem. You need to see a doctor. So, similarly, that of our device will also tell men about medication side impact in the sexual health.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I focus on two categories before which are the antidepressants and their diaper tenses. And yeah.

Dean Pohlman: That’s something that I hear about a lot. A lot of people are, you know, you’re fighting the you know, you’re fighting these medications that are making it impossible for you to have erections. And so they’re like, I’m doing the workouts and I’m doing your sexual wellness workouts, but I’m also taking antidepressants. So that’s a it could happen. Definitely something that people need to be aware of.

Dr. Elliot Justin: So we have we have both doctors as customers and doctors utilize this device to, determine the right dosage because one of the I hate dump I’ll dump on doctors again. Now, one of the worst things we do that’s really raw in terms of both of objective, data driven, objective care is we treat everyone is just a one size fits all.

Dr. Elliot Justin: So do you and I different ages do in physical conditions, providing different supplements, etc., etc. but if we both have high blood pressure, a doctor was started on the same medication, was kind of dumb because simulation, the same dosage because it really suck. But they should they should know about our BMI and other factors that we actually.

Dr. Elliot Justin: If a blood pressure cuff I said we could take a blood pressure twice a day. And that would help us determine what’s the best time of day, take the medication, what’s the right dosage so that with our with our, smart tech, we’d encourage people. People get to get multiple readings, get multiple data points, and then you have to say, gee, I’ll tell you, a depressant is 300mg.

Dr. Elliot Justin: It’s not. It’s hurting my dick. What if I go to 150? What if I got a 225? The doctors aren’t thinking this way, doc. Just thinking about one size fits all prescription medications. And I think that’s a mistake. So? So for example, the Pde5 medications psilocybin those pop tadalafil in what’s pop of the one. Well what’s the right dose item to five milligrams.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Tadalafil every day for as much pain as what else. Other quite vascular reasons. But I know from, from my nocturnal data that there’s no difference. But from it taking five, 10 or 20. But if I went to a doctor and had told me I had, he’d have trouble getting it up. He wouldn’t ask me, what was it?

Dr. Elliot Justin: When you masturbate, you probably wouldn’t ask me. But what about with his wife, girlfriend, whatever. They would just give me a pill. And if I came back ten, three months later and said, hey, it’s. I don’t know if they changed it, just double the dosage. Well, but then they double it again to 20. What? Stupid. Because with with you can with our device should I say well what’s what’s the right.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Those is a working. We have guys who are taking Pde5 medications. They get a device and they realize that actually I don’t need this. The problem is in my head, I don’t need the pill. Yeah. And the pill is has profound placebo effects. Well, too, I mean, I got I prescribe with the guys who tell me works. It’s in their wallet.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. That’s cool. So like, what are some other the I mean you’ve talked about a lot of them so far, but what are some of the data points that you’ll get from the ring that might not actually correlate to penis health? That can be really important to know.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Sure. Well, aside from the the medication effects, it will tell you about your heart health. If you’re if a man my age is having three plus nocturnal erections and their sex and strength, we have 1 to 10 scale and you’re getting, 75 minutes of nocturnal erections to make. You could get quite. That’s for health. And that doesn’t mean you should stop exercising, but you’re in good five health.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Now, for men my age, for example, is getting them two nocturnal erections and the average 4.5 and strength that in that you have a cardiovascular problem. So our device this this these data points become another way of assessing your call your vascular health as you age. And that’s profoundly scary. And likely that will become the standard of care whether it’s something it was or technology or not in the future.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Men are 45 to 50. Go to a doctor on up there. The doctors are there. Within three years, a doctor is going to want to know about their rectal fitness score as well as their blood pressure, electrocardiogram, the proteins testosterone, etc..

Dean Pohlman: Cool. What are some So one of the other questions I wrote down are what are some of the other things that impact penis health. So you know we talked about some medications impacting that. But what are some other things that maybe people don’t realize impact it that they should be aware of?

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, people people should be thinking about testosterone as well too. I’m getting yeah. It’s it’s a mistake if you’re over it, if you have if you have sexual dysfunction, sexual or rectal fitness issues or you’re suddenly over age 4550, you should know your totality and reach a okay, that is an alarming decrease today. As some of us are aware through the media and in overall testosterone levels.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Probably. Right. And it is probably due to injury inhibits in the diet. And that’s a certainly a strong associations as an improvement. But that’s not a strong association, between prosecuting processed foods or exposed to plastics. So with our, with our technology, if it is low and you start just testosterone replacement therapy, it it can be made objective.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Right now if a man is concerned as to tears low or borderline low or just wants to stay fit because he’s getting older is concerned about, aging issues, but doctors just ask subjective questions. Hey, how’s your sleep? How’s your energy? How’s your libido? This is subjective. Rin makes it objective. How long you daughter was last?

Dr. Elliot Justin: How high in our channel rations? Helmet. I mean, you’re having, because I want it. I recognize that a good deal. Sex is subjective. It’s it’s a it’s an, It’s an arm eyes. But there’s a part of it that’s objective. And I want to help men. I want to get men objective knowledge, to help them to have the the long of a lifetime lovemaking that that almost everyone, everyone desires.

Dean Pohlman: Okay. So I’m getting more, more of a clear picture that this is helping to provide, a lot of different metrics that are going to help not just sexual life, but also look at other aspects of your health and then help you make informed decisions based on based on data. That’s which is, you know, probably what you said at the beginning.

Dean Pohlman: But I’m sometimes absorb things more slowly. So I like to be able to like, take it all in and then really be able to explain it. So. Okay.

Dr. Elliot Justin: It requires it requires explanation. It’s it’s fresh. I mean, and sports, but I was really fresh. I spoke about very early, early on, which is that if a man wants to rock harder, last longer, you more confident, have more intense orgasm, put a ring on because you want to perform your very best. Put a ring on it and take and take a pill.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And that’s different than what? You know, guys have a lot of pride and and, you know, I mean, gay guys don’t have this issue. Not they don’t pride, but gay guys are very, I mean, it’s a 9% gay guys with sexually active use ranks or 10% straight guys do it at states. And there’s a certain male pride resistance.

Dr. Elliot Justin: So at that, like we go to the American Heart Association or these sites such as at conferences, one of the jokes that I would have is you could tell the difference in a straight doctor. Okay, doctor, therapist, one question. Do you use a Cochran? Gay doctor will be like, yeah, last night straight talk to me like, oh, well, I maybe some like me, some of my patients tell me that I don’t need that.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, it’s not about night. It’s about what do you men want to last long, longer, rather have more tense orgasm. Be more confident. Any guy who says no big of walking too far, it’s the that all lovers potential lover stay away from them.

Dean Pohlman: Well, that’s a good that’s a good new thing that I did not know. Which is kind of surprising given I do have a disproportionately, large gay audience. Cool. Hey, so one thing you were talking about, testosterone. I don’t know if you, you know, I don’t know if this is your background at all, but just assuming you have some experience, some opinions in this area.

Dean Pohlman: What’s this? Something that I’ve kind of learned about testosterone and that in a lot of these conversations that I’ve had is that it is not as much a reflection of your overall health as I thought. So, you know, I just assume that, okay, if you get all your, you know, your healthy habits in order, then you’re going to have, you know, a good level of testosterone.

Dean Pohlman: Or if you are you if you are unhealthy right now and you have low testosterone and all you need to do to fix it is to get your healthy habits in order. And from what I’ve learned, that’s not actually the case. And that if you don’t have higher testosterone levels to begin with, then a lot of these efforts that you might be making, whether that’s lifting weights or, you know, eating or trying to put on muscle, whatever it is that you’re going to have a lot of difficulty with it because you don’t have the necessary testosterone levels to actually be successful with it.

Dean Pohlman: So I just wanted your opinion on that.

Dr. Elliot Justin: But, no, I actually quite interested in this area. And I’ll, and I present spiritual as well too. So if you, if a man has normal to that men can still have bad heart disease. If man has naughty, that guy can still have bad diabetes. So having a normal TI isn’t necessarily indicative. That’s a, that’s I mean, you have good oral health other than if a man has low to be very unusual, have good overall health.

Dr. Elliot Justin: If a man has low TI, that man, will that have an impact on pretty much every system of the body immune system, muscle, sexual health as well. And the one one of the great things about tech rain is that it makes testosterone therapy objective. It makes it, you know, as I as I discussed before, it missed something that, we can actually see the see the impact of summer is low tier.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And they saw on testosterone they can see what the right doses for them because I’ll see their natural erections lasting longer, getting firmer, potentially potentially increasing a number. But what I encourage men to do we’re taking two. And this is how I approach two is what do we want while concert beauty I I’m 72 years old I want I don’t want to lose my muscle mass.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And I actually ideally because I want to gain muscle and I want to be certain that, that I have enough teases not having an impact on my sexual health. So my tier was in the low three hundreds when I saw it on TV maybe two years ago. And then would. Oh, now I keep it up around between 600 and 7 or so, and I don’t have erectile dysfunction.

Dr. Elliot Justin: So there was really no change with T upon my my nocturnal erections. But my muscles got bigger, stronger, objectively stronger at that. I, you know, my increase my upper body strength by about 10% turns up in most of my exercise, which is CrossFit. But course, because I’m a guy, I got a decent bench presses and I’ve got do some curls because that’s what we do, because regardless.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And I was surprised how quickly I, within like six weeks I was curling, you know, curling and and pressing, sniveling more away with that without trying. So, I when I prescribe to people, I encourage them to do two things. One, get get you baseline nocturnal erection measurements. Acronym for this is for men with lit with low take and also get some baseline muscle measurements.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I’m just a tape measure. It is really easy. You don’t need to go to a doctor. Get it? Fancy. Bio impedance machine. You know, analysis for $1,000, you can do it yourself with a tape measure. Okay.

Dean Pohlman: Cool. So firm tech, where do we get firm tech and how do you get to my. I so like so, so pure. So pure. You sent this to me a few months ago. I was like, I’m going to do it. I’m going to sweat it out. And totally honest, I’ve opened it. I have it on my bedside table.

Dean Pohlman: I have not used it yet. I don’t know how many people have seen it there. I don’t know if they saw anything. No one has said anything like, hey, Dean, you should probably put that in the drawer. I don’t know if anybody knows what it is. It’s it’s it’s relatively. I mean, honestly, it kind of looks like a watch when it’s folded up, like a smartwatch.

Dean Pohlman: So it’s it’s pretty like, you know, pretty on a, you know, it doesn’t look like a. Oh, that is, that should definitely put away, you know, but you know, for, for also for someone who’s like, you know, I, I’ve said like, hey, you know, I’ve told my wife, like, Marissa, I need to, like, try this thing.

Dean Pohlman: I’m interviewing this guy, like, you know, a couple days from now, and I need to, And she’s like, I don’t know. I don’t know about having that, you know, on me or in me, and, so, yeah, maybe you can. Maybe you can speak, speak to the apprehension.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, what if if it’s going to go in her or on her? Are you putting it on the wrong way of the job?

Dean Pohlman: Okay.

Dr. Elliot Justin:

Dean Pohlman: All right, that’s the first thing.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I’ll say some several things. One, the the tech ring gets off in general, gets good reviews from, from female partners because it actually, especially older women. I know I can play your wife is older, but I just mean not, you know, not with someone who’s in their 20s. I’m assuming that Marissa is not in her 20s.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Because it’s it’s covered. It’s covered with software.

Dean Pohlman: It looks like it.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Of course. And you like, you’re like 15. So she’s like a trail. Robert. The. Yes, it says cover the soft elastomer and but a little bit of lube on that provides, a more comfortable, area, sort of for the clearest, crack, especially if she’s on top. We’ve had I can’t, so I can’t I mean, can we document a thousand directions and, and just to which the non-tech person has been use 100, 100, 100,000 times this for a while.

Dr. Elliot Justin: So talking about millions of erections. And I’ve only heard from.

Dr. Elliot Justin: One woman who said that, you know, it was uncomfortable. Her close. So I think your wife might actually enjoy it. But if you know, if you’re not, if you the a what do I like about it? And what I think you’ll like about it is that one could be interactive interactivity interest for you get your data. We’ll talk in great health, but it would be interesting nevertheless to get your data.

Dr. Elliot Justin: But two. Yeah. If you I’m assuming if what you said, have you ever used a cock ring of any sort? That sounds like a no. These are the.

Dean Pohlman: Problem. It’s a it’s a I, it’s I think maybe maybe. Yes. If I think I’ve, I think I’ve had one I don’t know if I used it or maybe like let’s say like fewer than five times if I have.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Yeah. Well they pinch knock off all this hard silicone rings but same with same applied shift years. Our ring is not made of silicone cement elastomer, so allows the blood in just constraints. The penis return. And it’s also it can be adjusted. So when I use our ring tech ring, for example, for sex, I tighten it up, pull to a little bit, tighten up around the shaft, and has my pleasure.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And then it loosened up or not, you know, the other way around the shaft, you know, to wear it, to wear it overnight. I mean, some guys and you probably wonder because you have it, you’re hesitant, but you know, some guys, it takes 2 or 3 nights to get used to having, so that was the case for me.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I’m a type of guy, I take off, I huge state of my my rings at night. I don’t like having anything on me. The first couple times I’d like, you know, I’m, you know, wake up 3:00 in the morning where it was there, and you simply unhook it. We hook it because sometimes it might pull on your skin, near pubic hair, whatever.

Dr. Elliot Justin: But at this point, I don’t even know. I don’t even notice it. You know, if I have to take a piss in the middle of night and I got a hard on, I just want to take a piss and, you know, you know, go back to bed. So, it’s it’s really it’s it’s comfortable. I mean, here’s my recommend to you.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Forget about the data.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Wear around the house for an hour or two, just to get used to having you on your body and just wear it as sexy. Why? Just to to then I mean, with, but forget about the data. The sport uses a cock, but remember, it doesn’t go down the shaft. It kind of wraps around the balls. And the reason for that was twofold.

Dr. Elliot Justin: One was because we didn’t want to get rotational artifact with all these ordinary rings around the base of the shaft that can rotate. We do want to get rotational out of that. And so we want acted on the bulls reverse rotation artifact. But of course we want would actually retain more blood in the in the balls because they’re, they’re secondary rogerstone.

Dr. Elliot Justin: So that might deem this is your homework assignment. Just homework assignment.

Dean Pohlman: X. All right okay. All right I think I’ll have to have her. She’s going to have to have I’m going to have to have her watch me on it.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I think she put it on you.

Dean Pohlman: She’s a she’s a bit of a germaphobe. So she likes she likes things being clean. So I think as long as I show her look, I’m washing this, then I think will be. I think that’s the most important part.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Probably. Yeah. It’s it’s made out of milk. Milk grade elastomer. So it’s not, you know, I’ll put this way 84,000 document directions. No one’s had to get to the doctor. No one’s had to, you know, get a prescription. You know, there’s not been a it’s no complication. Elastomers are sticky, though. They do. They can collect lint. If you leave it out in the air, it will, you know, collect some widgets, wash it off.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Okay. What if I can lick it all. Have to lick it off as well too I no, no I won’t do that.

Dean Pohlman: So that sounds gross. All right. Rapid fire. This is, I like asking guests these questions. They’re not really related to what we talk about, but I like to see what men think. Especially men who are, Well, men. Not just people with brands and things, but also members that we interview for these. So first question is, what is one habit, belief or mindset that has helped you the most with your overall health and wellness?

Dr. Elliot Justin: That’s that’s a great question. I think it orgasm a day keeps the doctor away. And I’ve tried to, have an orgasm a day, every day since I could have an orgasm. Since I discovered my father’s Playboy collection. I was, like 11. And the other habit is tenacity. You know, I work when I have a goal, I work at it.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I try if it if it if even like even even getting there can be humiliating because I might lack certain skills or I might not, you know, you know, you know, knowledge, tenacity is I think that’s an excuse. This. All right, so let’s not forget the orgasm every day too, by the way.

Dean Pohlman: Right? Right. No, we got it. We got them all in there. What’s one thing that you do for your health that is often overlooked or undervalued by others? And obviously sex orgasm. That’s one. What about I’m not give you another one.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I, I ride horses, and I don’t think people understand how how much exercise in the bath that, you know, if you if you ride. I mean, my wife says I ride like a 15 year old. I ride at least like a 30 year old. But if you ride horses aggressively, aside from getting the benefit of intimacy with these incredible animals, it’s a it’s a cool workout.

Dr. Elliot Justin: I am surprised how often I’m winded after, you know, several hours of riding, and I. I think that riding horses is underappreciated. People think I’d working at the school, the dude ranch, as they see people, you know, you know, the horses walking along, or they people, you know, go and go riding arena, go out in the wilderness, go over broken trap broke, go over, you know, rocks and cross streams and have an adventure and get your heart pumping.

Dr. Elliot Justin: It’s it’s is great.

Dean Pohlman: Okay. So what’s the most stressful part of your day to day life?

Dr. Elliot Justin: Well, you know, it’s I started seven companies. This is the this is the most complicated company that I’ve got I’ve ever done because it involves everything from invention, supply chain, hardware, software, firmware research, international research, retail distribution, wholesale. It’s it’s it’s stressful.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah, yeah. You mentioned before we started the call that you’re currently in, I don’t know, I allowed is this a secret study or am I.

Dr. Elliot Justin: No, no, I’m, I’m I’m in Egypt. Yeah. No, we had.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. Well, what are you doing in Egypt?

Dr. Elliot Justin: The. I’m in Egypt, to to meet with one. Well, they say they’re the largest andrology group. Men’s health group in Cairo. And they’re, you know, they want to do a large study incorporating, like, technology to practice because, the culture is very different here. There’s, you know, there enough problems in them in our culture back in, like, sex, food and sexual health.

Dr. Elliot Justin: We talked about this really incredible pandemic level incidents. Robots function you 50% by age 50. Well do higher here. And it’s and it’s, they’re issues. People marry when their versions, people, don’t masturbate. And as a consequence, this is a profound, level of, psychosexual dysfunction. And, and so the soccer’s up on use our technology.

Dr. Elliot Justin: It’s about research, the technology, the value technology, but also to help people. Okay.

Dean Pohlman: Cool. And last question. What’s your best piece of advice for men who want to be healthier?

Dr. Elliot Justin: I think stop making excuses. Go to, you know, I don’t I don’t think you can do it on your own. Get a trainer. And and have a disciplined program. And and and then do it. I don’t think you need to go to my. I don’t think, you know, you have to have 14 hours a week, but I think you you need to be have 4 to 5 hours a week of significant, both kind of cardiovascular exercise and strength building exercise in what you want to be healthy.

Dr. Elliot Justin: And you’re going to feel a lot better about yourself, too. And so easy to. And I’ve done in the past, I’ve been working back when I was younger, you know, I kids and I was also working E.R.. It’s so easy to have excuses, you know, talk to a next week or I’ll start tomorrow. It’s just don’t make excuses.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Do it. Yeah. Okay.

Dean Pohlman: All right. Well, doctor Elliott. Thank you. I’m gonna put the links in the show notes here anyways, but can you tell us where to find more about you, your work, and from tech?

Dr. Elliot Justin: Sure. You go to my phone, check my f I rmt.com, click, click on the sign section email and you’ll read about the value of what we’re doing. And put a ring on it. Get your data and put a ring on to improve performance. You can also reach me personally, Elliott Elliott, get my friend Pittcon. I answer almost all my emails.

Dean Pohlman: Awesome, cool. And we do have a promo code for you guys if you could in Man Flow Yoga, I think it’s 15%. So, use Code Man for yoga and yeah, put a ring on it. That’s that’s I love that. That’s, is that is that on the website anywhere or what’s, what’s do I care what’s always go to slogan.

Dean Pohlman: It is.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Okay, cool on the website.

Dean Pohlman: I love it very very clever. Well done sir. All right guys, well, thank you for joining me for this episode. Elliot, thank you for sharing. About the firm tech and also about penis health and overall men’s health. A lot of really good data in here. So, thanks again. Yeah. Appreciate you taking time out of your trip here.

Dr. Elliot Justin: Thank you. Dean. House. Pleasure.

Dean Pohlman: Cool. All right, guys, I hope this inspires you to be a better man. I’ll see you on the next episode. All right, guys, hope you enjoyed that episode. If you want to learn more about Doctor Elliot, check the links in the show notes. And again, if you want to get the firm tech device, you can use the code man for yoga at my firm, Telecom.

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