From Tolerating Life To Being Passionate About It | David Maus Jr. (Extreme Temperature Therapy) | Better Man Podcast Ep. 150

Dean Pohlman: Hey guys is Dean Welcome to the Better Man podcast. Today’s episode features YouTuber Dave Moss Jr. Dave focuses on teaching people about cold plunging, about saunas, about hot and cold therapy, how to DIY your own, equipment for this, how to do this as cost efficiently as possible. I first found Dave when I was looking for a maintenance video on my own cold plunge unit, and I reached out to him because his video was so good and we had been talking ever since then.

Dean Pohlman: So this episode you are going to hear from David why he ended up leaving a 20 year career in the car business, which he was the face of. He was on video ads, radio ads in Orlando, Florida. And we’re going to talk about the uncertainty, the difficulty and and the change relationships that were bound to occur after leaving that career.

Dean Pohlman: We also talk about how he started getting into cold plunging and how he started his YouTube journey, and how he’s been able to really build a huge following in a very short amount of time and really be successful in a way that most people take years and years to create. And then lastly, Dave also touches a lot on how he has relied on his faith to support him through these decisions and through these life changes.

Dean Pohlman: And whether or not you share those beliefs, I really appreciate hearing them here. I really appreciate hearing him here, and I think that there’s definitely something to be gained by listening and learning from them. So I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Dave has become a friend of mine. He’s been in a YouTube series that we, filmed in July, and it should go live in August as, don’t know when this episode’s going live, but should go live in August.

Dean Pohlman: And, you can check him out there as well. So hope you enjoyed this episode. I hope inspires you to be a better man. Hey guys, it’s Dean. Welcome to the Betterment Podcast. Today’s episode I have Dave Moss Junior, who is a YouTuber on mostly cold and hot therapy, which we’ve decided to call extreme temperature therapy. And, we’re going to talk about his story, why he’s so passionate about this, and, get into some reasons why you might want to do this, the benefits, how you can start doing it, what that looks like, how both David and I, use this in our own lives.

Dean Pohlman: And, you know, maybe you’ll do it. Maybe you want. But, Dave, thanks for being here.

David Maus Jr.: Dude, thanks so much for having me. I love your studio. I feel like I’ve been there before.

Dean Pohlman: Yes. Which is a great way to introduce the other series that we recorded together last week, which is going to be coming out in August, most likely. So if you’re a, guy who lifts weights, so you do cross training or, high rocks, which is like the cool, cool new thing, if you do any of that kind of stuff and you’re curious about what are your weaknesses and how can yoga help?

Dean Pohlman: That’s a really cool series that we did for that, so be on the lookout for it.

David Maus Jr.: Yeah, dude, I’m looking forward to it. I actually have a couple buddies who do high rocks and CrossFit, and I was telling them about just the simple poses that we did and how hard they were. And I like a challenge. I feel like challenges are what make us stronger, and that’s kind of what got me into cold water therapy.

David Maus Jr.: And I’ve always been a fan of saunas. I didn’t really know why, but, you know, when you’re younger and you’re going to the gym and the gym has a sauna, it’s kind of the cool thing to do is go in the sauna and sit there for five, ten minutes after your workout. Yeah, and just talk about the torture.

David Maus Jr.: We just put ourselves through. So I’ve been a fan of sauna for a long time, but I didn’t really know all the wonderful benefits of using a song on a regular basis until I’m so kind of recently. So kind of in a flashback to like, what got me into it. For anybody listening, if you’ve ever experienced severe brain fog or fatigue, basically any parents listening, this is you and most anybody over the age of 18.

David Maus Jr.: You know, brain fog is a real thing. Fatigue is a real thing. And though I still enjoy too, I enjoy indulging in some drinks that aren’t the greatest for you. From time to time, I. I prefer the biohacking. I prefer to do things that are more on that natural, maybe animal based lifestyle. And I want to flash back.

David Maus Jr.: So a lot of people don’t know this, but my name is David Moss Jr. I was in the family business. My dad owns car dealerships in the Orlando Tampa area in Florida, and I got in the business when I was 15 years old and started working full time. From the time I was 15, that’s where I met my wife, made a ton of friends, excelled really well in it, and really enjoyed the job.

David Maus Jr.: I really enjoyed the business. I won a lot of different things humblebrag. But I was really good at it and I ended up climbing my way up to the top of the ladder. You know, the highest you could get other than being the owner. For the last seven years of my career there. And when you do the same thing for a long time, it’s kind of when you can get.

David Maus Jr.: I don’t want to say the word burnout, but I guess that’s the closest thing that you can you can connect it to is like burnout, where you just kind of feel like you’re just doing the same thing every day. And yes, the money is good. And, you know, security is good and you’re good at the job, man. Like, I just felt like I was missing stuff in my life.

David Maus Jr.: Like the challenges that us as men kind of need. Yeah. Hence why we do yoga and workout and exercise and do our do the things we do. And, you know, we just had our fourth kid, and my wife encouraged me to go on a snowboard trip with some buddies and I was experiencing some, like, intense brain fog where, like, I would go an entire day and get a lot done.

David Maus Jr.: I just kind of like trying to recap on what I did. It’s like it’s I do the same thing so much that it’s like, oh my gosh, I can’t really like lock in, remember? And I was trying these different nootropics and all these different things, drinking a lot of caffeine. Nothing was helping. So I’m snowboarding with some buddies and I love snowboarding.

David Maus Jr.: I love board sports. We’re doing backcountry powder. It was so fun, had such a great time. And we go back to the, Airbnb we’re at, and there’s a hot tub. And behind the hot tub is a creek. And the creek was, like, flowing water, but there was ice like on both sides. It was really cold. So we’re in the hot tub kind of relaxing.

David Maus Jr.: It’s kind of what you do. You get in a hot tub. It feels nice, but man, like you immediately feel tired. One of the guys is like, dude, let’s go jump on that river. I’m like, dude, my like my legs, my knees. Everything’s sore from today. I don’t know how we’re going to ride tomorrow, so let’s go jump in that river.

David Maus Jr.: I’m like, no, no, no, no man. Like hypothermia will die. Like, you know, that’s what my mom always told me is like, you don’t don’t mix hot and cold, right? You’ll you’ll die. Or hypothermia is like, no man, like Wim Hof breathing cold water therapy. It’s great. Let’s go. So I did I was like, you know what? I’m in.

David Maus Jr.: Let’s do it. I will never be able to replicate. Well, I guess I will. Every day I cold plunge, I can replicate it. But that feeling, the very first time I ever felt severely cold, extremely cold water on my body, it woke me up in ways I I’ve never experienced. I felt clear, I felt like I could think so clearly.

David Maus Jr.: It was almost like, have you ever seen that movie free Guy? I think is what it’s called with Ryan Reynolds, where he’s like a video game character. Yeah. And he’s like, he just got punched in the face and he’s like, all beat up. And he like, touches this little health box inside. Yeah. Oh man I feel brand new.

David Maus Jr.: That’s how I felt like that’s the closest thing I can explain to, to the feeling I got. Yeah. And it was incredible. I got out of that water and I felt like wow let’s go snowboarding again I feel incredible. And so like I abused it. Like the next morning I got up, I went out there, jumped in the water.

David Maus Jr.: I call my wife FaceTiming her like, damn, I’m in a freezing river. She’s like, you’re crazy. Then flash forward, I get home, get back to reality. And, I had to. I had to create like, an ice bath. But I live in Florida, so it’s always hot. I spent, you know, hundreds of dollars on ice for, like, the first couple of days doing this, like, just ice baths and a galvanized trough before I was like this, this isn’t working.

David Maus Jr.: I have to do something different. And this was three years ago, so there wasn’t a lot of cold plunge options that were under, you know, ten, 20 grand. Yeah. So that’s what got me into that was my first experience with cold water, and that’s what I was dealing with. Now there’s a lot of really cool parts to the story we can share.

David Maus Jr.: I’ll let you I’ll let you kind of take over here for a second, steer this conversation. But there’s a lot of really interesting parts that led me to leading my 20 year career, severing the relationship I had with my dad and a lot of people that I considered family for, you know, 20 years of my life. And starting this new chapter of being a content creator around health and wellness, being an advocate for cold plunging biohacking and, just living a better life in the wellness space.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. I mean, well, first, I can speak to that feeling of cold water immersion and just being like a total shock to your system and like, just waking you up and giving you this burst of energy that you can’t compare to anything else. I mean, I think I started cold plunging, and I didn’t, I didn’t I didn’t have any sort of formal practice.

Dean Pohlman: I didn’t have, like, you know, it wasn’t like X amount of times per week and like all that stuff, and I didn’t even have a thing, but I think I started cold plunging, I want to say back in like maybe 2016, like, was maybe my first experience with that. And, that was just like, oh yeah, I’m going to get in and do it.

Dean Pohlman: And, you know, I didn’t really do it consistently at all. I think and then in 20, I want to say 2019 or 2020, I got a, you know, I got a freezer on Craigslist for 100 bucks and filled it with water and ice and, you know, made sure it was on a timer. So I didn’t electrocute myself when I got in.

Dean Pohlman: And, you know, like, I did that for like a while, too. And that was like, you know, people were, you know, kind of the same responses. Right? People would be like, oh my God, you’re going to die. You’re going to get hypothermia. I be careful, oh, you make sure that your son doesn’t fall in it. Like, why would my why would I drop my baby?

Dean Pohlman: And then the cold plunge. You know what? Like, you know, all.

David Maus Jr.: These people who are.

Dean Pohlman: Like, this shouldn’t be done by everyone. It should come with a warning. I’m like, literally everything should come with a warning. Like, yeah, obviously. Like, you know, not everyone should be doing a cold plunge. But yeah, I started cold plunging, and I really, I really like it. And I think saunas, like, same thing. I’ve always like the feeling.

Dean Pohlman: I like sweating, like, I love the feeling of sweating. Like yesterday I was working out and I had finished up my workout and I was still in the garage. I turned the fan off and it’s, you know, it’s Austin. It’s like 95 degrees on a cool day in the summer. And so I’m just sitting there, foam rolling, dripping sweat watching beads of sweat drop off.

Dean Pohlman: And I’m like, I love this. Like, this is great. Sweating is awesome. Yeah. And so I’m I’m a huge fan of both cold plunging and of, you know, of sauna, but, you know, kind of like you and your experience. Like, there’s a reason why I bought a freezer instead of paying ten grand for a standalone unit. You know, it’s like and so and that’s what really, I and to me, that’s what I really like.

Dean Pohlman: Some of the content that you’ve created is like, hey, guys, here’s how you do this yourself. I refuse how you get started. You actually have the I envy you because, you know, I think I told you this when you were here, but, like, my ability to do any sort of handiwork is just non-existent, even for, like, hanging a picture.

Dean Pohlman: I’m like, nope. Calling someone. Unless it’s like just a single nail. Like, nope. And if it has to be level, no, can’t do that. So like, you’re a, you’re I envy you for your ability to be handy and like, look at these things and and create it. But, I think that was really, an intriguing, part of your story to me was you’re like, well, how is this thing work?

Dean Pohlman: Can I do it myself? So I’ll, I’ll, I’ll take it to there.

David Maus Jr.: You said with the bros gear this.

Dean Pohlman: Let’s go.

David Maus Jr.: There. Yeah. I love that. Dude. I’m so glad you steered it there, because I literally just finished filming. Like, I haven’t even taken the the SD card out yet to upload it, but just finished filming a updated version to. I actually stuck with version one for the past three years of the DIY cold plunge that made me a YouTuber.

David Maus Jr.: Like there’s a video that made me a YouTuber. Some people can’t think of the video I can. It’s it was a DIY cold plunge video turned me into a YouTuber and my life’s been changed ever since. So the first version and I actually, there was a couple different ways to do it, and I made a lot of videos on it and how I figured it out is like, I’ve had aquariums growing up.

David Maus Jr.: I had aquarium chillers, much smaller ones, but I knew that there were chillers that were for larger bodies of water that could keep the water, you know, specific temperatures, because certain fish have needs depending on what kind of a query you have. So I knew that existed and I didn’t know where to get it. So I just went on all Google and searched, you know, large aquarium chillers.

David Maus Jr.: And I found this active aqua chiller, still the same chiller that I recommend most today and a lot of cold plunge companies use because it’s just a simple solution that actually works. So I bought this chiller at the time it was like 4 or 500 bucks. They have increased in price today, but not by as much as a lot of other things.

David Maus Jr.: So I bought that. I figured I need a pump, I figured I need like a little filter just to kind of keep the hair and stuff, you know, from floating around tubing clamps called a day. I had a horse trough that I was already putting ice in, and I just put the pump inside. It had a tube go to a filter, had the tube, go to the chiller, then had the tube go back in.

David Maus Jr.: Super simple. Not a lot going on, not a lot that could go wrong. And I filmed a video on my iPhone 13 mini on the front camera, and I literally was a guy who’s looking at myself the whole time. So like, my eyes never lock eyes with you. It’s always looking at myself as such a terrible video. And that video has, I mean, helped thousands of people build their own DIY cold plunges for minimal money.

David Maus Jr.: Shortly after that, I realized, oh, like, they’re, you know, actually, shortly after that, ice barrel reached out to me and they’re like, hey, like, we love what you’re doing for the Cold Plunge community. You’re helping a lot of people get cold. We want to gift you a barrel. I’m like, sweet. And this is one I only had one, just the ice barrel.

David Maus Jr.: And it was like $1,000. And they sent it to me. And I didn’t really know what to do with it. I thought, I thought I knew like they loaned it to me. I was in the car business, like I still had a full six week job and I was just filming this on in my mornings. I was getting ready for work and doing my cold plunge.

David Maus Jr.: I would just film myself doing my routine, and then I would just post it on the way to work. I never edited it, didn’t do a lot of special stuff. No special effects. Yeah, I edited the whole thing on iMovie on my phone. Yeah. And, and then I ended up just I built a couple plans, posted it out there, got a lot of feedback, got a lot of a lot of love.

David Maus Jr.: Had a lot of great testimonies from people. And it was really cool. There’s so many cool parts to that part of the story, but it would take a whole episode just to go over that, and the viewers don’t need to hear all the ins and outs of how, like Shervin, my buddy Shervin reached out to me. I didn’t know who he was.

David Maus Jr.: He’s like, dude, your video was great, but you don’t have any links. And I’m like, I don’t even know what that means. So he walked me through creating like a place where people can access the stuff I used, and then I could get a commission from it. So I started making money. It was like really weird. It was really crazy.

David Maus Jr.: It all happened fast. And then I fell, sends me a barrel and I drill some holes in it, and I put my cold plunge setup in that. And that was still version one of my DIY. So how much? I didn’t really make a lot of changes to.

Dean Pohlman: How much did it cost for all the DIY materials that made that horse straw into like a, a system that kept it cold and kept the water.

David Maus Jr.: Real? It’s 100 bucks.

Dean Pohlman: A hundred bucks, okay.

David Maus Jr.: About $800. All right. Yeah. I mean, the chiller is the most expensive part. The chiller cost, you know, 500 bucks. Okay.

Dean Pohlman: How long did it take you to put together?

David Maus Jr.: Oh, I just did the math. 80. If I wasn’t filming ten minutes, 15 minutes, maybe 15 minutes. And that includes, like, unboxing the chiller. Yeah. Super. So, my gosh, dude, I’m sitting here looking at my DIY 2.0 that I just posted on Instagram, and it’s going crazy. I’m looking at it right now and it’s like, it’s so simple and I just filmed a whole tutorial of how to do it, and it should take no longer than ten minutes for someone to do this whole thing.

Dean Pohlman: For someone.

David Maus Jr.: Like Super Simple, who.

Dean Pohlman: Knows how to use tools, for me it would take like 8 to 12 days.

David Maus Jr.: Hands. Just your hands. You don’t even need tools. You don’t need tools for any of that. So. So version two is, I’m using some stainless steel connections, some ball joints probably. I don’t know if those are words you you know what those are.

Dean Pohlman: You’ve lost. You’ve lost the.

David Maus Jr.: Same basic C, a saying, a basic filter that you don’t have to buy replacement filters for. You just have to spray it out once every couple of weeks. Oh, that’s kind of a really good pump. And then you pick your tub like this DIY. I can go into any tub. I can go into an ice barrel, the frozen 400, a DIY there’s.

David Maus Jr.: This DIY set up will be the set up at thousands of people. The rest of this year. We’ll use because it is so simple. It’s a thousand bucks, including a chiller, and today’s prices and everything about it has had will make the cold plunge experience easier. And guess what? I don’t sell these kits like this isn’t something I have stock of sitting in my kitchen.

David Maus Jr.: I’m trying to boost the price up. I have curated an Amazon cart. If you if you decide to go with this kit, it will make your cold plunge journey very, very simple. It’s the cheapest way to get into cold plunging and have a continuous, cold plunge. But, but if you want, I also review every cold climbs that you can think of.

David Maus Jr.: And those videos are on my YouTube channel as well. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: And that’s, back.

David Maus Jr.: To your first point.

Dean Pohlman: Like, I know that’s how I found you.

David Maus Jr.: That’s how I see your point was, was that’s how you found me.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was looking for, I was like, I was getting back into cold plunging. I had been, I think I had 20, 23. I want to say I was really, like, gung ho about it. I think I had just been sent a unit by Cold Point by the point. They’re now called the plunge. But the guy who had up that brand ambassador program followed me.

Dean Pohlman: He knew me. He was, like really big into yoga. He’s like, oh, yeah.

David Maus Jr.: Man loves you.

Dean Pohlman: Oh he does. Oh that’s awesome. Yeah.

David Maus Jr.: He loves you. Every time I posted like that, I’m with you. He’s he’s stoked. He’s like, I love Dean.

Dean Pohlman: That’s awesome. Yeah. And so like, I applied to the program and he said, yeah, we get hundreds of applications every day. But I saw your name came through, and so they sent me a unit. You know, this is like a $6,000 thing. I’m like. And I was like, oh, yeah, maybe they’ll give me half off. They’re like, no, dude, we’re going to send you the new one.

Dean Pohlman: We’re going to send you like the XL version. I’m like, really cool. And so, you know, I got it set it up and, and I was on and off with it. I think the starting of January, it was either 2023 or 2024. But I was like, I’m gonna do it every day for 30 days. So I was really good about that.

Dean Pohlman: And then I kind of tapered off to like 3 to 4 days a week and then, you know, pretty soon life got in the way and I wasn’t doing it at all. And it kind of like just something I wasn’t using at all for, for months. And then, earlier this year, I was like, all right, I’m getting back into it.

Dean Pohlman: You know, I’m inspired. And so I, I went back out, you know, turn it on, realize ago this is not, doing what I wanted to do. So I went on YouTube and I was like, I need, like, just a video that’s going to explain this stuff to me. And your video on, like, how to do the cold, like how to take care of it.

Dean Pohlman: I was like, this is a great video. Like I watched it, I took notes, I’m like, cool. So basically I just have to do these four things. I have to skim the water. I have to make sure that I’m clean before I get in. That’s going to be the biggest part. And then were just like, it was really simple.

Dean Pohlman: And so after that, I sent you a message. I’m like, dude, this video is great. I’m also a YouTuber. Do you want to connect? And, you know, we’ve been talking since then. So that’s my story of how I found, how I found a boss.

David Maus Jr.: Yeah. That was honestly, I took a screenshot of your comment. I think you commented. You’re like, hey, man, great video from a half a million subscriber YouTube account. And I was like, was this fake? There was, do you know the guy who goes around and, like, mows lawns for people and does it, like, for free? Yeah. Yeah.

David Maus Jr.: So so that guy, he’s got like 2 million subscribers or something, and he commented on one of my videos and I’m like, oh my gosh, this is so cool. So I screenshot it and send it to a couple of my friends. You were one of those people who let you comment today, like screenshot it. I sent to some of my friends like, look at this.

David Maus Jr.: This is so cool. That’s awesome. And yeah, dude, we became friends since and that’s been that’s been really cool to get to know you better. And yeah, you put me through some torturous yoga poses and then help you with some of your as friends because products from cold. Yeah man from cold plunging to. So I had a red light therapy to just some different bio hacks that we know have some benefits for us.

David Maus Jr.: But that is my story of how I got into becoming a content creator and helping on wellness space. And then it kind of transitioned from like Cold Plunge Company started seeing me as this guy who was pretty well versed in cold plunging, and that how it actually works and can explain it in a way. So brands would reach out to me and send me their product and be like, hey, we’d love for you to try out our product.

David Maus Jr.: And I didn’t know what else I was doing. I was still in the car business. I was like, oh man, I’m getting a free cold plunge. I’m just going to review it. So like, I would just review it posted to the internet, other people would get the product. That was cool. And it was funny because client was actually the brand who the first brand to like, ask me if I would sign exclusivity with them.

David Maus Jr.: And I was like, I don’t think that makes any sense for me. I’m a that I review random cold plunges and stuff like, right. I feel like if I sign an exclusivity with you, then I’m now a sales rep and like my content strategy would have to change. And I just, I don’t feel like that fits what I’m looking for in my life.

David Maus Jr.: So if you do want me to review your product, that’s totally fine, I won’t. There’s just other brands out there that I’ll keep reviewing. And then they it was almost immediately their response was like, you know what? We’re going to veto that. We want to send you a unit to let you explore and stuff. And that started the relationship with them.

David Maus Jr.: And now I can say like three years later, almost two years of being a full time content creator. I have a relationship with almost every major brand, and if I haven’t reviewed the product, it doesn’t mean I haven’t had access to it or the ability to. I also like I don’t really like to waste time personally, so I don’t really like to waste time watching reviews that are negative on something.

David Maus Jr.: I would just prefer to see more people talking positively about something. So like I usually only review a product if it is worth considering. Yeah, I just don’t have the time to make content. It’s like, hey, here’s you know, this product is not worth considering. And I have made a few videos that are kind of warnings to some of the brands out there and warning things to look out for and without making an entire like, don’t buy this product video.

David Maus Jr.: I try to put some resources out there to help people figure out what’s best for them. And that’s kind of the the cool thing. So it transition from cold plunging listeners and then brands. Sonia Brand started reaching out there like, hey, we love what you’re doing in a Kirkland space. What do you think about Sana’s? And I’m like, I love them.

David Maus Jr.: Like I absolutely love us on it. And I actually built a DIY sauna to take in my old infrared sauna that got to 130 degrees and turned it into a 200 degree sauna, for 80 bucks. And that, I ended up it’s sold out. The the heating element that I found on Amazon. Like, that thing is always sold out.

David Maus Jr.: People still DM me today and they’re like, hey, man, like that heater from your video is sold out. What should I do? And I’m like, pray that they restock. I don’t know, like it’s an $80 heater. Go buy a more expensive one if that’s it’s theoretically the same thing. It’s a patio heater that you would hang up on your like patio.

David Maus Jr.: Yeah. And you plug it right into an outlet. It was very easy. Nothing crazy, but that video got me into saunas and dude, now it’s crazy. Now it’s like I review everything and health and wellness, red light therapy, hyperbaric oxygen chambers like it has gone into nutrition and drinks and supplements and it’s freaking crazy. God is very, very good.

David Maus Jr.: But that’s my story. And then two years ago, I prayed deeply about it with my wife, about losing everything that we have, and just taking a step out in faith and just going full time on content creation, leaving behind a 20 year career, severing the relationship with my dad and, you know, people I’ve worked with for 20 years.

David Maus Jr.: And that’s the and I did August 7th, two years ago, I, I quit and haven’t looked back. And God has been good man.

Dean Pohlman: That your your birthday’s August 7th, right?

David Maus Jr.: Yeah. Yes. On my 35th birthday, I quit my 20 year career as the vice president of a four store automotive group. Tell me how that makes any sense.

Dean Pohlman: That’s total. Makes total sense to me. As a as a guy who similarly uploaded unedited videos to YouTube, without a clue of what I was doing. So. Yeah.

David Maus Jr.: Love it.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. I mean, you.

David Maus Jr.: Know those stories, man, those stories never get old.

Dean Pohlman: I mean, if you’re willing, I don’t know a lot of what I like to do on the Better Man podcast. I know we had this whole agenda that we planned. But a lot of what I like to do on the Better Man podcast is kind of be an example of how men can have more real, more meaningful conversations.

Dean Pohlman: And if you’re up for it and you know, I’m I’m setting it up so that you kind of have to. But I but, you know.

David Maus Jr.: I’m so up for it. I know where this is going, and I you just.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. I mean, walk me through that. That’s like a that’s a huge decision. I mean, I have so many questions. First off is like, why did it have to be like an all or nothing thing? Like, why did it have to be I’m either going to be in the car business or I’m not going to talk with my dad anymore.

Dean Pohlman: And like, yeah, just like kind of the.

David Maus Jr.: Comfort.

Dean Pohlman: Of that.

David Maus Jr.: So, so discomfort, so much discomfort. And it was hard because like, it wasn’t like I was just I you never know, like when you make a decision like that. I was the guy. I was the vice president. I was the face on the TV commercials and all the pamphlets, and I was the voice on the radio like I was.

David Maus Jr.: I became the face of the entire brand. And like to nobody. It made sense. Like to know about. Nobody saw it coming. I didn’t see it coming like a month prior to me quitting. If you had been like, hey bro, you think you’ll ever leave? The car business? Are you ever. Do you think you’ll ever, like, not be here?

David Maus Jr.: I’d be like, no. Like there’s there’s no reason. And it kind of happened really fast. But like, I really started to lean into my faith and started to really pray and listen to God’s voice in my life. And like, we all have that, whether whatever anyone really used religion is or.

Dean Pohlman: Have you always been religious?

David Maus Jr.: No. No. No TV? No. Nope. I found I found Jesus at 21. My wife was the first person in my life to to witness to me and share the gospel and share the love of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Everything that I had heard when I was a kid, but I never really got to experience much. All you need is a beautiful woman who who you happen to be highly attracted to, to be like, hey, we will never date unless you know Jesus.

David Maus Jr.: And I was like, come on, let’s go. There’s a lot to that story too, but but no, I was 21 when I found when I found my faith in Jesus. Because it’s not something your family can pass down to you. Each of us has to make that decision. So I made that decision, and that changed my life.

David Maus Jr.: And I started leaning more into it. And there was definitely parts of me that I felt like I’m good in the car business. I’m doing a great job. I’m making good money, things are good. But I also felt so still just dropping. Like I felt like there was more that I wanted to do in this world than just sell people cars and though it’s a hard job and it was, and it was a very good job, it wasn’t a fulfilling job for me.

David Maus Jr.: And to to many people it is and it should be. It’s a great job and it provides a lot for a lot of people. But I felt after like 20 years of like of working hard and, and all of that, I felt the word I landed on recently. And I shared a post on about this on Facebook literally yesterday was I felt tolerated.

David Maus Jr.: I felt like I just felt like there was no more growth for me. I made good money. I did a good job. I felt like tolerated it. And it wasn’t a it wasn’t a good feeling for me. I felt like, yeah, like I felt like everything was being taught. I was being tolerated, like we weren’t growing. I felt like I, I was tolerating just my life at the time.

David Maus Jr.: Like I wasn’t stoked on my life. Like it was a great life. But I wasn’t like this. Stoked to live it. It was made as a success because.

Dean Pohlman: The kids are using that word right?

David Maus Jr.: Yeah, man. And so like, here’s the crazy thing. Like, I don’t want to share exact numbers, but I made very, very high six figures a year. Very high top 1%. And leaving that there’s no severance package in the car business. There’s no like oh man, great job. 20 years. Here’s a free car or something like as soon as you quit the car business, for the most part, you’re like, it’s over.

David Maus Jr.: Like, you know, more. It’s it. And I didn’t expect any different. I had some conversations with my with my dad and other people in the business that were high ups about, like, my new desire. Like, I’m really enjoying making YouTube videos on health and wellness. And I’m getting feedback from people in Australia, in the Netherlands, and like people all over the world are emailing me, DMing me.

David Maus Jr.: And my Instagram was private at the time, like I was getting DMs from people like, hey man, I watched your videos and changed my life like this. Cured my PTSD. Like the the testimonies I was getting from people was just like making me smile every day. I felt so good to just answer another question with another video. And that’s what I did.

David Maus Jr.: Like I made the DIY cold plunge and then I would get questions and I was like, well, instead of just text answering this question, it’s a good question. A lot of people have it. I just make another video. So I made a catalog of videos answering questions. How to Clean your Cold plunge was a question that I got a lot.

David Maus Jr.: So I just made a video and that’s how you found me. So it got to the point where it’s like Alex or Rossi, had a video where he’s basically like, I don’t remember exactly how it went down, but it was the first thing that got me thinking. It’s like, where are you spending your time and where what brings you joy?

David Maus Jr.: Can you put the time you’re spending in the thing that’s making you my into the thing that brings you joy and eventually make a living doing that? And I was like, yeah, I can’t, because I’m already making like 1000 to $2000 a month in like affiliate income and different things, like without putting really a lot of effort into it.

David Maus Jr.: Like I probably spent four hours a day on my YouTube channel, and I was spending, you know, no, not four hours a day, then say four hours a day, four hours a week. Okay, I did that out four hours a week, like barely any time at all. And I was spending, you know, 6 to 7 hours a week at, at my job, you know, so it got to the point where it’s like I felt that and it felt like, okay, if I did put the time I’m spending in my job, in the car business into YouTube and actually, like, cared what could happen, like, would I be able to pay my bills or would

David Maus Jr.: we lose everything? And me and my wife prayed about that. We’re like, we went to church and literally prayed with my pastor, like, about this decision, and I felt God say, I felt God just give me peace. It wasn’t like, you know, you don’t hear this audible voice. Like I felt God say, I got you don’t like worry.

David Maus Jr.: Like I know none of this makes any sense, but if you trust me, I will take care of you. And he has. Like when we made the decision, when I made the decision to leave and my wife had peace about it, we were 100% expecting to lose this house that we were currently remodel, that we were remodeling at the time, lose our cars, lose every perk, everything that came along with that.

David Maus Jr.: But just this piece of of giving it all to God and being like, man, this is either going to be like the worst decision I ever make or like the coolest story ever told. And it turns out currently it’s a pretty cool story.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. So I mean, that’s awesome. I’m glad that it worked out and that you, you know, you found you were able to practice your faith in a way that gave you reassurance and gave you confidence to be able to to do this thing. So you know the question, though the remaining question then begins like, what was your dad’s response to this like?

Dean Pohlman: And why was it like, why was it like like you’re out of my life or like you’re, you know, why was it so extreme?

David Maus Jr.: I don’t know if it’s out of life. I just think that, you know, I’m 37 years old. He’s, you know, he’s got his own life, remarried with two awesome kids. Like, I just think that we’re both in the in the same season of life that happens to be very busy. I left, so, like, he had to then step back into, like, I was, I was he was very involved, but I was operating the stores as the vice president, so he didn’t have to do as much for it to step back.

David Maus Jr.: And it kind of changed his life a little bit. And I just, I don’t know, I really like we’ve had conversations and they always seem productive and they seem positive. It’s not like we hate each other. Like we still have a father son relationship. It’s just like a busy, don’t really intentionally make a ton of time for each other relationship.

David Maus Jr.: We see each other at holidays and stuff, but when I decided to quit, there was definitely some, I don’t know, I hate to use the word ego, but I guess that’s the only thing like it was this. This isn’t going to look or feel good for a lot of people. And I think that kind of hurt.

David Maus Jr.: I just think it was. I think it just hurt. I just think it was an unexpected thing I had to do for my life, for my story. And unfortunately, they just. I don’t know if I really could answer that question. He needs to probably go on a podcast to answer that question. But like, yeah, we do our.

Dean Pohlman: Deepest, darkest things by interviewing them on podcasts now. So yeah, that’s that’s what’s required.

David Maus Jr.: Exactly, exactly. But no like, hey, like I, I absolutely love my dad. And like if he called me right now I would answer. And he’s always we invite each other to things like family functions and things all the time. But as far as work, I would say is like a, like a relationship. Like our relationship hasn’t really like gotten worse or changed personally.

David Maus Jr.: I just think removing the day to day conversations, being in the car business and talking about business all the time, and it just really like cut a lot of the communication away. That’s not necessary anymore. Yeah, I supported me. He bought a sauna that I’ve done a review for. He’s got some cold plunges and you know, he he has supported me.

David Maus Jr.: It’s not like he is shunning me away and vice versa. It’s just like me quitting that 20 year career and leaving it was definitely, a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people, including him. Yeah, yeah. And I think that the reason it was like, you can either be the VP of this company or be a YouTuber, not both.

David Maus Jr.: Is was my decision really. I don’t think it was so much. Him telling me what I had to do is more I want to pursue making content full time. And it’s going to be hard to do that, putting, you know, 50, 60, 70 hours a week into my career at the time. Yeah, I think that’s where a lot of people stand.

David Maus Jr.: I think a lot of people who reach out to me and ask me how I did it, or like what made me decide because I’ve been more vocal about that journey. I kind of like just quit. I posted something on Facebook. It was up for six hours, and then I just kind of felt like it was. I felt like it was personal and I didn’t want it to feel personal, so I just deleted it and never said anything again.

David Maus Jr.: Just kind of started pursuing making full time content. And so, you know, a lot of people figured it out and realized it. There’s still a lot of people today to have no idea. So I started being more vocal about my journey, what led me to leaving my 20 year career to do this, and then some of the stepping stones that got me to where I’m at today.

David Maus Jr.: And, and it’s it’s opened up a lot of conversations about a lot of people who are in the same boat. They’re like, man, I do feel the same way. I feel like my job is just a wheel, and I’m just on it and it’s like I have no fulfillment. It provides food for my family, but it’s just not fun.

David Maus Jr.: There’s so much more I want to do, and I would I would never encourage somebody to quit their job if they don’t have something going. Like I had momentum. I already had brands reaching out to me. I had I was making content for about a year, not consistently, but like I was making some content on health and wellness for about a year, and I had already started generating a little bit of money coming, and it wasn’t enough to pay like one of my bills, but it was at least something.

David Maus Jr.: It wasn’t like quitting my job and then hoping things just will work out. There was some structure to it, so I would not encourage anybody to just quit their job and start making YouTube videos today.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah, yeah. So like was some of the fear of, of your transition was there, was there a fear that your dad wouldn’t support you or was there a fear of, like, what was the you know, it seemed I don’t know, based on what I’ve heard from you, it sounds like there was. So I’m curious about that.

David Maus Jr.: Yeah. No, no, for sure. Like, me leading, it caused a, like, a straight up tear in our relationship where there was, there was no support. It was, it was, and my support, I mean, maybe, I don’t know, like, you never really know what would happen. Like Mike Tyson says, you don’t know what you’re going to do to get punched in the face.

David Maus Jr.: Like, I don’t think my dad ever had to prepare for the day that I just quit. I don’t think that I think was very unexpected. So when I did, I think the reaction he had and then the reaction I had to each other was, was not very loving. It was very like, defensive from both of us. Like I made a decision that put potentially my family on the street, that also, like, affected his, his business and, and just a lot of relationships and conversations.

David Maus Jr.: So there was there wasn’t it wasn’t a fear. It was like a certainty. Like there was I was kind of certain after day one, after 24 hours after I quit, like, okay, I now have no relationship with with my dad anymore. I went to his house. I actually drove over to his house the next day to just hug him and just have a conversation with him, and it was a great conversation, and I think that was like a necessary thing.

David Maus Jr.: It was hard. It was really hard to just drive over there and like, face to face, like, yeah, tell him I love him and tell him like, hey, I had I had to do this. And he understands and understood. Like, once again, here we are two years later and I’m still it’s it’s still a conversation because like, you know, it’s it’s a, it’s a story that a lot of people, a lot of sons, probably would like to tell but also are afraid to like, I know a lot of my friends and a lot of people that I know who are second generation in their family businesses or even third generation and family businesses

David Maus Jr.: and absolutely hate it. I think there is a place I think I really do like if you look back in history and like our ancestors very few of our of our ancestors like passed down businesses where like the kids stayed involved and it was like taken to the next level as a, as a man. Like I do feel like we need to figure out what it is that we’re passionate about and the gifts that we have and pursue those, even if that means, like not taking over a family business and and not sticking with something that doesn’t bring you ultimate joy.

David Maus Jr.: I mean, like, I don’t know, we start a family, we get married, we move, we have kids, we have our own responsibilities. I don’t think we’re supposed to be as, like, connected, as some people think. And maybe some books say, I definitely there’s a space for conversations and relationships with our relatives, families and even our dads and parents.

David Maus Jr.: But, but I don’t know. I don’t feel like the decision was the wrong decision for me or for him. I think if anything, it was it was good because it gave him the ability to fully run his business the way he wants to run it, because we did have some disagreements and things and that’s normal. Yeah, but he gave him the ability to fully run his business the way he wants to run it with the people that aren’t family.

David Maus Jr.: So he doesn’t feel like he has to, you know, he has to employ someone because it’s his son. Like, I want someone to want me to work with him. Like I take pride in providing in our life for some of the brands I work with, I take pride in giving the viewers of my my videos value. And the feedback drives me.

David Maus Jr.: So like, I don’t know. Yeah, this is good. Like, you’re unpacking some stuff. This is a good therapy session. Thanks, man. Yeah, that’s.

Dean Pohlman: That’s, that’s my specialty on these podcasts is, you know, I like, I mean, because I’m honestly curious, like, I mean, for me, my biggest, improvements in my overall health and happiness and fulfillment have come from these types of conversations. It’s come from these kinds of discoveries. It hasn’t been from. Oh, yeah, you know, got my squad up today.

Dean Pohlman: You know, like and I used to think that, you know, I used to think that I would be happy if I was really fit and really rich and, you know, then I realized like, oh, getting rich is hard. And, you know, fitness is why, you know, having the body that I want and looking a certain way is not going to make me happy.

Dean Pohlman: So I’ve always found, you know, a lot of growth and, fulfillment from this type of work. And so, you know, that’s always been really it’s been exciting for me. So. Yeah, thanks for thanks for doing it with me.

David Maus Jr.: So yeah, bro, not totally I appreciate I appreciate, the openness and ability to talk. And you’re right, a lot of the conversations that I’ve had with people from sharing and this kind of there was a question or a statement earlier on, and I just want to approach it. You’re talking about the better man podcast, and we want to be able to communicate better as men.

David Maus Jr.: I think there is so much power in sharing who you actually are, not who your job is or what you’re paid to talk about, but sharing who you actually are on the internet because like two things are going to happen. One, if you’re a popular person like the Rock and you have 400 million followers, which none of us do, you’ll get a lot of hate just because there’s trolls on the internet.

David Maus Jr.: Yeah, but the most powerful thing that happens to almost all of us is the algorithm actually finds people who are similar to you, and they put you together like, I used to go to the dealerships, and I was like this, like, health nut kind of nerd. I love talking about new health and wellness, things that I was doing.

David Maus Jr.: And most people in the car business aren’t very healthy. So like I would do these challenges like, hey guys, like every hour we’re going to do ten push ups. And you know, you’d have like, everybody jump in for the first hour and then half the next hour and then half of that the next hour. And by the end of it, like people are like, David, we’re not doing anyone.

David Maus Jr.: Like there wasn’t a ton of adoption and living a healthier lifestyle from like, the masses. And I felt like I was just constantly talking to a wall, like so passionate, so excited about what plunging did to me. And then, like, people would entertain me, tolerate me, but not, like, actually care. Yeah. Then I started sharing on my very small audience on YouTube and Instagram and like, next thing you know, I’ve got new followers and subscribers and comments and DMs and emails from people who are like, dude, I felt that same feeling, dude, that was that.

David Maus Jr.: I get that, yeah, now you’re fired up because like, oh my gosh, like I’m saying, I found some people who I didn’t even know existed on this planet who are also excited about the same thing I’m excited about. So I think that’s why I openly share now, like, I hope that nothing I said on this podcast is like offensive to families or family businesses or my dad or anybody listening or even like hurtful.

David Maus Jr.: This is my story. Like, this is this is how I feel like no one can change how I feel and what my story is. And the perception of my my life is like, this is it. So like I share it willingly to hopefully connect with a couple people who are feeling the same way. My job is not to make everybody feel good by I don’t have a my job doesn’t do any of that.

David Maus Jr.: My goal is to connect with like minded individuals and maybe give a little resource, give a little help, and give a little value to the 1 or 2 people who this resonates with. They are like, man, like, I’ve been working with family for a long time and I really don’t love what I do. I didn’t know anybody out there actually did something about it.

David Maus Jr.: I thought we all just kind of tolerated it. Yeah. No, I’m a I’m living proof that you can do what you love to do. And if you do it with the right and the right heart, I don’t want to get rich. I don’t want to fly private jets or have multiple, like, mansions. I just want to be able to provide a somewhat decent life for my family, share value with a lot of people out there, and like Die with zero.

David Maus Jr.: I actually haven’t read that book, but I’ve heard of it and it sounds awesome. Like I was here. I don’t really care to save a bunch of money and pass down money to my kids. They’ll figure it out for themselves. God will provide for them too. Yeah, my goal is to give them a great life, a great experience, and some, you know, and just tee them off to live the best life that they can live, even if it has nothing to do with anything that I’d expose them to growing up.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah, I mean, there’s definitely something to be said for being able to share your experience in a way where other people can hear that and say, oh, that makes me feel better to know that I’m not the only person who also has that experience. I mean, that’s something that I found, firsthand. I think when I started this podcast, I, I think the goal at the time was I was seeing a lot of just, I was seeing a lot of male role models being portrayed in ways and, like, I don’t think that’s how we should be doing it.

Dean Pohlman: Like, I think that maybe that worked at a time, but I think now, like, we need to be more intelligent with our emotions. We need to be more connecting. We need to be softer in many ways instead of just this like grind all the time, no matter what. And fuck your feelings type of approach to fit health, I’m like, that’s not working.

Dean Pohlman: So I did the betterment podcast. I was like, there’s a better way to be a better man. And through that, sharing my experiences. That’s something that has been super powerful with our community has been like realizing, wow, Dean, you were able to like, explain that in a way that makes me feel better, makes me feel accepted for the way that I was.

Dean Pohlman: I didn’t I didn’t think that it was okay for me to be this way, or I didn’t think that, you know? So, yeah, I can I can love definitely resonate with that. And the one other thing I was thinking, as you were talking about this was, my wife and I just went to, we went on a week long trip to Italy without the kids, which I highly recommend.

Dean Pohlman: Leave your kids at home. They’ll be fine. You’ll probably have to find someone to watch them. But, you know, we did a trip to Italy and the first place we went was Venice, and we went to this glassmaking factory, and, the guy there, the owner, he has three kids, and none of them want to make glass. None of them want to blow glass anymore.

Dean Pohlman: So he’s like the last guy of this, you know, centuries old glass factory. He’s like, I’m the last one. My kids don’t want to do it. They’re not going to be masters. So if you’d like to buy this, you know, this tiny piece of art that I am currently stenciling with a pen, it’s $6,000 because I’m the last person we did not end up buying the thing.

Dean Pohlman: But anyways, it just.

David Maus Jr.: It made me think of your.

Dean Pohlman: Somebody and like, the, the generational, you know, the generational career getting passed down. So yeah.

David Maus Jr.: Yeah, man. And that’s happening and I think now like you got to also think to a lot of past generations didn’t have access to the internet where we can see that these things are actually happening. I think trailblazing is hard, but when you see a path, it’s a lot easier to go down it. And when you see other people have done it, it’s like gives you a little bit of like reassurance and peace.

David Maus Jr.: Like, okay, at least one other person has done this and not completely failed. So that gives me hope. And I think that’s something that a lot of the generations like even that, that the glassblowing guy, he’s probably only ever seen, that’s what we do. Like we were just glassblowers, you know, and then now he’s got kids who have Instagram and YouTube, and they’re seeing all these new cool things that expose their their just desires and gifts and passions, and they’re like, no, I kind of want to go do something that I actually have a passion for, not just something that’s passed down to me.

David Maus Jr.: And yeah, I’ll just say this too. Like, I loved the car business. It was very fun. I learned so many wonderful skills that have made me who I am today. So there’s definitely no regret at all for any time spent, any relationship made. And I and like I said, I hope that if any of my friends from the car business or people get their ears on this podcast that, you know, I hope nothing bad came from it to where you feel like my intent was just to share why I decided to leave the steps of leaving, and then also like what happened after.

David Maus Jr.: You know, a lot of times we watch Disney movies and we see like the Prince and the princess and then they kiss and then that’s the end of the movie. Like what happens next? Because like the courting phase of everything ends. And I will tell you this, a friend of mine, he’s a public speaker is names Glen Lund.

David Maus Jr.: He called me the day after I quit. He was like, bro, he said, how you feel? And I said, dude, honestly, I’m feeling. I’m feeling good. I’m kind of fired up. I’m excited. Like, I’m nervous. But all the feels. He said, grab your Bible and and then I want, I want you to go through something with me.

David Maus Jr.: I was like, okay, so we open up the Bible and we go to the story where Peter, Peter gets out of the boat because he sees Jesus in the storm and he walks on water. Everyone listening, whether you’re Christian or not, probably heard that story. Right? So there’s a there’s a part in the Bible that’s actually really interesting.

David Maus Jr.: So Peter sees Jesus, asks permission to get out of the boat, and then Jesus says, yeah, come on, the water, let’s go. So Peter steps out of the boat because his eyes are locked in like he’s locked in. He’s trusting, feeling, vibing with Jesus. He gets out, he’s walking on water. So he feels good. But all of a sudden some lightning and some wind catches as he gets distracted, looks to the left, looks to the right, takes his eyes off of Jesus and sings.

David Maus Jr.: So Glenn was telling me, is that right now you’re you’re locked in like you were trusting God. But there is going to come a time very soon that you are going to feel like you made a horrible decision, and you are going to feel like you got to go grab your dad’s feet or whatever and get your job back, or at least you got to.

David Maus Jr.: You’re going to have to. He’s David, I want you to know, like I feel so strongly for you. I feel like you are going to crush it and whatever it is that you do. I didn’t even announce that I was going to be a full time content creator, and I didn’t know what I was going to do, truthfully.

David Maus Jr.: But he said, just keep your eyes locked in on Jesus. And just like, let him steer your life and you will walk on water, you know, forever. And that has been my mission. Like my mission is to glorify God in everything that I do. And not be like, you know, not be crazy about it. But just like, share that.

David Maus Jr.: Like, dude, you could be a wellness nut, a family man, a good person, love Jesus and just be a light in this world and not have it all figured out. And that’s kind of if I could paint a picture of my goal and who I am in this world is like, I don’t want anybody ever feel like I got it figured out and that, you know, like nothing can ever go wrong.

David Maus Jr.: Every day I’m just like, I got, what are we doing today? I’m going to just lean in. I’m going to trust you. Let’s go. And every day for two straight years have. It’s been the most incredible journey and I’m just super grateful to be on it.

Dean Pohlman: Man. I just want to say thank you for sharing, that, you know, your beliefs. Here with me, I, you know, I it’s a I think there’s a lot to be. I think there’s a lot that can be gained from listening to other people’s religious beliefs, even if they don’t match up with your own. I think sharing your experience.

Dean Pohlman: And I just, I appreciate it. That’s. I guess that’s what I’m trying to say. I don’t really have I don’t have, a fully fleshed out response, but I appreciate you sharing it, basically. And I think there’s a lot to be, even if people don’t share the same at least I think it’s really cool to hear, like the amount of faith that you have.

Dean Pohlman: Right? Like this, that what your faith does for you and like how that’s translated into your life. I think that’s awesome.

David Maus Jr.: So so thanks, man. I mean, that’s the the goal is to share and see what God does. Like I’m not trying to convert people or anything crazy. Like I just want to share my testimony and my story. And if it resonates with somebody and helps them along their journey, then perfect. I’ll let God do the rest.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. So, you know, you know, I talked about forehand, but, I’d love to do another episode where we get a bit deeper into, like, what are the benefits of cold and hot therapy?

David Maus Jr.: Let’s do it.

Dean Pohlman: How do you actually do it? And like, bro, you know, like, what’s it look like? And personal practice, you know, because I’m not I think FaceTiming you was first time I had a conversation with you. And, you know, I think you walked me through your house. Most people are not going to have 12 different, you know, cold plunges like stations strategically throughout the property.

Dean Pohlman: You know, but like, what are the, you know, what are some what are some practical ways that people can like, you know, cold plunge and sauna. And so, yeah, let’s do a follow up episode and we’ll know about that.

David Maus Jr.: Let’s do it. Yeah, we’ll just plan it. I crazy, you know. Dude, today I filmed two full YouTube videos. Two full short reels. Yeah, they didn’t work in like crazy today. Yeah. I leave Sunday at like 6 a.m. for, class camp, which is the middle school. Middle school thing. My kids go there. I volunteered last year, my first year, as a free man over summer.

David Maus Jr.: So I was able to do it. It was so, so, so fun. Oh. Good call. But yeah. So let’s let’s plan a second episode for sure. Yeah. After, after I get back, I should be back like Thursday, Friday. So next week or end of next week or even when we get even after that. So yeah, I can go back to school in August.

David Maus Jr.: So I’ll have a lot of free time too. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: And then, so for you guys listening, I really highly encourage you guys go check out, his channel, Steve Moss jr. It’s a Dave Steve Moss junior. Right? I’m not crazy.

David Maus Jr.: Demonstrator David Moss junior is spelled ma us and a us.

Dean Pohlman: Yes. It took me about three days to improve my pronunciation of your last name. So if you have questions.

David Maus Jr.: We got it, though. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: So if you guys have any questions on, like, cold punching or saunas or if you want to look at like start to do some research on your own and figure out, hey, what you. And it’s going to work. Well for me.

David Maus Jr.: He’s he’s.

Dean Pohlman: Serious. He has he has done it all. And it’s really cool to have conversations with him and every other every every few minutes. He’s like, do you know this guy from this guy? I’m like, no, I’m awful at networking. I don’t know anybody who you’re talking about. But Dave knows all the guys because they all reach out to him.

Dean Pohlman: They’re like, hey, will you review my code lunch? Hey, will you review the sauna? So anyways, check out his YouTube. You can see a lot of stuff on there. And just curious. It’s kind of cool. So. Yeah. Thanks.

David Maus Jr.: Yeah. Appreciate that man. Thank you guys. And to everyone listening, make sure you go and if you aren’t already and subscribe to Dean’s channel. He’s got incredible resources. I’ve been diving in there a lot. Can you got so much good content. So you keep doing what you’re doing. And I love appreciate that.

Dean Pohlman: And yeah. All right guys, so I hope you enjoyed this episode. Hope inspires you to be a better man. And, we’ll have David back to talk round two, in a few weeks. So make sure you’re subscribed. See you later. All right, guys, I hope you enjoyed listening to this episode of the Better Man podcast with Dave Moss, Jr.

Dean Pohlman: If you enjoyed the episode and you haven’t already, I encourage you to leave a review wherever you listen. Could be Apple Podcasts, Spotify, maybe one of those other platforms that I don’t quite know the names of. I also want to thank you for listening, especially if you’re part of the man for yoga community. We make these episodes really with, you know, and for you, the community and mine.

Dean Pohlman: So if you’re already there, thank you. And if you want to learn more about a community and joining, getting started with the Mantle Yoga program, go to Meaningful yoga.com/join. And if you’re not quite ready for that, I’ve got a free seven day program for men called the seven day Beginner’s Yoga for men challenge. You can sign up for that at Man Flow yoga.com/7dci also want to give a big shout out to Dave and his YouTube channel.

Dean Pohlman: I highly recommend you go check them out on YouTube. We put the link in the description below here, so go click on that or search Dave Moss Junior email us and you’re going to find some great videos pop up there. If you’re looking for anything cold, cold, plunge or sauna related, he’s probably there and he’s got a ton of information that’s super helpful.

Dean Pohlman: I’ve been able to benefit from that firsthand. I highly recommend it, and hopefully we’ll see him back here in the man for yoga community for some other stuff as well. That’s all I’ve got for you guys today. I hope you enjoyed this episode. We’re probably going to be doing a follow up interview with Dave. So you can listen to that.

Dean Pohlman: We’re going to talk more about the benefits of cold punching and sauna specifically. So this will be a more focused on how to cold plunge and how to sauna as opposed to this episode is more focused on getting to know Dave. So check that out. Subscribe, make sure you know when new episodes go live. They’re going live on Friday.

Dean Pohlman: By the way. And, I hope to see you there. So thanks for listening. I hope this inspires you to be a better man. I’ll see you on the next episode.

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